Recent comments in /f/WorcesterMA

[deleted] OP t1_irz544s wrote

Nice that you've ignored everything I said otherwise so that you could add a snarky comment. To further spell out the glaringly obvious, however, let me repeat my comment with a clarification:

Hardly anyone lives on Central Street, now MLK, Jr., Blvd. There are thousands and thousands of people on Plantation. My apartment complex alone must have hundreds of people. Then there's the other apartment complex, and the people on Plantation Lane and Court, which are also supposed to be changed.

Maybe people just don't like changing street names in general, no? Again: Kilby Street had its name changed because it was perceived to be associated with crime. People didn't like that. People still don't like Crystal Park being called University Park. All of those things are very small compared to a very long street like Plantation.

>Quinsigamond Plantation was part of the Trans Atlantic Slave trade.

Source?

The area was called by the British Quinsigamond Plantation even before the Europeans settled here, and the land was purchased from the Nipmuc. It was abandoned for a first time by 1675, less than three years after 30 Europeans settled there.

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Loislayna1982 t1_irz4k2f wrote

I really don’t give a solitary shit about your opinions. You solicited opinions. I shared a thing. If you grew up with that street it may not give you a moments pause. If you didn’t, its concerning. Thats what the item you posted is highlighting. I don’t care if you agree. You have every right not to. But its false to say no one thinks xyz. They do.

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thisisntmynametoday t1_irz3tv1 wrote

You can’t even comprehend the source you quoted.

“Nipmuc history in what is now Worcester County predates any written records. During the 1600’s, the original inhabitants of Worcester dwelled principally in three locations, Pakachoag, Tataesset (Tatnuck), and Wigwam Hill (N. Lake Ave.). In 1667, four men, among them, Daniel Gookin, surveyed the land the English called Quinsigamond Plantation.”

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[deleted] OP t1_irz2zir wrote

Sorry! I thought you were saying Worcester was a bad place, etc. I agree, though; the trash is everywhere. It's a little better now that they've got those green bins, though, but I don't know why they can't just install public trash receptacles and do street sweeping. I can't remember how long it's been since I 've come across a street sweeper.

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[deleted] OP t1_irz1zpp wrote

>Pushing against it for effectively no reason is shallower.

No, that's nonsense. If things are fine as they are in any given situation, e.g. the Grafton Hill's array of street names, telling someone not to intervene to make a change is sensible. Others have already mentioned the burden it puts on the thousands of people who live on this street to change all their documents, and the tens of thousands of dollars on new street signage, as well as the fact that people don't like their street names being changed as evidenced by people's responses to Kilby Street's name being changed, and you have a pretty good set of reasons.

The fact that some people here, yours truly not included, don't know the history is further proof of the argument that no one views "plantation" in some historical sense. It's viewed as the word for this street, right now, not the slavery that didn't even exist in the area when Quinsigamond Plantation was named.

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[deleted] OP t1_irz01wz wrote

Hardly anyone lives on Central Street, now MLK, Jr., Blvd. There are thousands and thousands of people on Plantation. My apartment complex alone must have hundreds of people. Then there's the other apartment complex, and the people on Plantation Lane and Court, which are also supposed to be changed.

Maybe people just don't like changing street names in general, no? Again: Kilby Street had its name changed because it was perceived to be associated with crime. People didn't like that. People still don't like Crystal Park being called University Park. All of those things are very small compared to a very long street like Plantation.

>Quinsigamond Plantation was part of the Trans Atlantic Slave trade.

Source?

The area was called Quinsigamond Plantation even before the Europeans settled here, and the land was purchased from the Nipmuc. It was abandoned for a first time by 1675, less than three years after 30 Europeans settled there.

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