Recent comments in /f/WorcesterMA

UniqueCartel t1_is11wzm wrote

Make UMass pay for the change. Not the residents of the city. That means setting up an office from 7am -7pm 7 days a week with a representative dedicated to help the residents change all their licenses, utility bills, credit card bills, and everything else. Keep it open for 1 year. Force door to door visits to engage the residents for the assistance. Hire multiple reps who speak all the languages found on Plantation Street. Then see how committed UMass is to this cause.

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Cheap_Coffee t1_is0z5cy wrote

More correctly: as a *result* of wars.

It was standard practice in those days to sell any (indigenous) prisoners taken during the wars. Most were shipped out to the Caribbean. They were not, by and large, used as slaves locally -- there were already more than enough indentured servants on hand to do the work.

This also started well before King Philip's War.

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Cheap_Coffee t1_is0y4tw wrote

The issue is "change of address." In both cases the address changed. The fact that one address (the old street name) doesn't exist anymore is irrelevant.

Perhaps this is an issue your friend should take up with the local postmaster. (As with your issue with carriers refusing to deliver to your parents' house.)

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UniqueCartel t1_is0wlif wrote

Yeah this is probably my biggest issue with it. Although I don’t live on that street it is one of Worcester’s longest streets. It’s not at all comparable to the Yawkey way issue in Boston. Because the Red Sox were the primary owners of property on that street in addition to a handful of restaurants and a 7-Eleven. Whereas plantation Street is home to probably well over 1000 residents

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UniqueCartel t1_is0w8u0 wrote

It’s the guy who works at UMass’s business/PR rep who petitioned for the change. I’m sure he had support from the school’s board or chancellor or whatever the appropriate office is. I won’t name him, because I think he’s a good guy, and it might not be his baby. Could be something he was told to do. Idk

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jesseMc420 t1_is0vmrq wrote

If you want a Boston Terrier you better caught up 2000 plus and they have all kinds of health problems. Your best bet is to go to a local shelter and adopt a mixed breed dog. They are much healthier and you would be giving a dog a good home. Look into dogs health issues before you decide on a breed. It could save you lots of heart ache and vet bills.

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UniqueCartel t1_is0uu22 wrote

My opinion, for anyone interested, is go ahead and change it. It’ll be a logistical headache for everyone on that street because it’s one of the longest streets in Worcester. But do it anyway, because what’s the point in arguing against it? You’re just going to sound racist because you’re arguing to keep something that someone else said is a racist thing. So now it’s this weird fucking stand-off between people with no proof that it’s racist and people with no proof that it’s not racist. So it just become another thing to yell about. So just change it. My suggestion to the city council would be to change it quickly with zero fanfare and pageantry. An affirmative vote by the council with no discussion should take 5 seconds. And move on and be done with it. Moreover, although I give flaccid support to the change I’ll offer that the word plantation in this context is not a reference to old southern slave plantations as is the stated reason from the petition. In this case plantation is derivative from “Quinsigamond plantation” which was the former village that Worcester used to be. That village was an English settlement which was burned to the ground during the king Philip war. So if we are to be offended by the name of plantation street, it’s not due to the history of racism suffered by African-Americans it is actually the atrocities carried out by the English settlers against the natives. So, although the petition seeks to change the name of the street because of the country’s history, it’s actually more appropriate to cite the actual history of Worcester. I doubt the Nipmuc tribes or Wampanoags were asked about the change.

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very_random_user t1_is0uiur wrote

Completely different issue. In this case the old address disappears you aren't just moving around. Anyway, that was an experience I reported maybe he was unlucky. Different issue but, for instance, most curriers don't deliver at my parents main address because it's not correctly mapped on Gmaps. Small changes can make big differences.

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