Excellent!

No. Are you implying that anyone who lived in a plantation (ie, historically, a colony) was racist?

One jabroney over at UMASS, who makes $136,000 a year to think up ridiculous ideas like this, causes all this hullabaloo! An all in the spirit of virtue signaling. I am glad this was shot down quickly by the city council! But hey, gotta earn your 136K somehow.

Are you implying that anyone who lived in a colony was racist?

Another Reddit asked about this event awhile ago. I don't remember who it was, but I wanted to advertise this event here, because it's a pretty cool thing to do in the city!

Would you have the same feelings if it were called "Colony Street"? Asking honestly.

The city has a process to get an honorary name for street and blocks of a street. That's still something that could be pursued, and it avoids forcing everybody to rename things.

UMass Medical doesn't even use Plantation Street anyway, they use N Lake Ave for their address.

Not wanting a street sign thats rooted in racism is not virtue signaling, and I can guarantee most people complaining live nowhere near it. Yall just cant accept change

> You're not wrong, but it wasn't used in such an intentional context as you're implying.

I'm not saying the link between Plantations, Colonialism, and Slavery is intentional, but nonetheless the link exists.

> If North America was entirely uninhabited, the word would've still been used.

"If things had been different, they'd have been different!" Sure, maybe, but it wasn't uninhabited. Hence the issue.

>Duncan is living in a fantasy world thinking changing a major street name would be cheap and easy. Clearly she didn't even bother to look into the actual details before pushing this...

On this we are in agreement.

Yes, it does, but it would still mean raising taxes, and that tends to get voted down.

If you want to change it, circulate a petition and try to get it changed.

https://www.worcesterma.gov/city-clerk/public-meetings/file-a-petition

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> and you end up paying only for what you want to throw away.

About 50% of Worcester trash is funded by taxes and 50% funded by trash bag sales.

The pay-per-bag system also encourages illegal dumping, and the city absolutely has a littering problem.

You're not wrong, but it wasn't used in such an intentional context as you're implying. If North America was entirely uninhabited, the word would've still been used.

It's not a reason to keep using the word for things today, since that's not the common definition people actually know.

Duncan is living in a fantasy world thinking changing a major street name would be cheap and easy. Clearly she didn't even bother to look into the actual details before pushing this...

Reminder that one time a local news reporter went to one of these spaces and interviewed some folks there, only to publish a shitty article about how illegal and commune-like it was...the next thing they knew they had all sorts of authority showing up, had to pull some strings and get legal messes sorted out, and while all of this was unsure and up in the air, folks living there were concerned about not only losing their home but also a strong little community they built from the ground up. Being that things in this city have to be coded and licensed, maybe just shut the fuck up on the internet.

Also ralphs ain't letting in anyone under 21, don't care if you order a water. It's a bar.

Ask a punk or GTFO

Weak

So, I'm not getting in a giant debate over this again, I have stuff to do today, but I did wanna address one thing cause I'm sure it'll get brought up a bunch on this thread:

>Plantation was also a term that was used for a settlement in a new region. That's why it was "Plymouth Plantation".

So, you're right, but people have a tendency to gloss over what that means.

Plantation in English:

>From c. 1600 as "introduction, establishment." From 1580s as "a planting with people or settlers, a colonization;" used historically used for "a colony, an original settlement in a new land" by 1610s (the sense in Rhode Island's Providence Plantations, which were so called by 1640s).

"It's not tied to slavery, it's actually tied to colonization," isn't really a sterling defense of keeping the word Plantation in things.

Plantation was also a term that was used for a settlement in a new region. That's why it was "Plymouth Plantation". The expense is also a very real thing, since it's stationary, signage, changes at every utility company, etc... it would have been really expensive.

The trash bags thing is done in a lot of places. It lets them avoid raising taxes to pay for collection, and you end up paying only for what you want to throw away. You can't just tell the city to figure it out and magic away the expense... the money has to come from somewhere. Curbside pickup can easily be $80/mo.

Yeah same

I do work! I just like doing things besides work when I have free time :)

If your buying discount video games perhaps the time would be better spent working

Agreed. It's not the west side or burncoat or anything but it's fine. Better than many parts of Main South.

Yes indeed. Although I have to say even the usual sjw hardcores in Worcester didn't really rattle sabers over this. Everyone seems to agree it is performative.

At what point is it false advertising or does that phrase/law even exist anymore?

Pretty sure “That's E!” has older games. Like NES, gameboy, N64, Xbox, ps1 and 2 stuff. I didn’t notice any current gen games because I was considering buying Excite Bike just to put it on the shelf as a childhood memory but I’m already running out of room hiding the stack of 90s comics I have to hide from my wife every time I go there

Virtue signaling. That’s the context.