My understanding of Section 8 vouchers is that they are a bit a headache in the beginning. There are inspections, paperwork, etc. that can take a few months to complete before the cash starts to flow. I'm sure the timeline is even worse for someone not familiar with the process.

> Plenty of us are forced to be renters because assholes keep buying everything up to rent out, causing scarcity and higher market prices.

Yeah, that's not the case in Baltimore city. That is true in some cities but the whole "evil Texans are coming in and buying up all the property and driving prices higher!" narrative that some people love isn't actually happening here. There's still PLENTY of affordable housing here, check your favorite realty website. There's even affordable housing outside of the city if you want a more suburban lifestyle.

Money? Ah yea the cost if a phone.

I admit nothing. I did not admit to anything. If you think I did, that is your incorrect assumptions.

>aside from taking off work

Not sure what the point of this is.

A video can be manipulated to any direction. A in person viewing of a real docket cannot be.

So for the average person who really wants an unvarnished view, go to the district court.

And really. Talk to the tenants and talk to the landlords. Ask them what brought them there.

But you won't cuz it's easier not too.

Yeah that’s free (aside from taking off work) unlike YouTube videos which famously cost money. It’s journalism friend. It’s more valuable than anecdotal accounts.

So a case is thrown because the landlord was negligent? I’m ok with that. If you’re kicking someone out of their house the least you can do is be prepared.

But thanks for admitting cases generally aren’t thrown because they lack merit. Those cases go through.

I think your use of superlatives is absurd.

You are using assumptions. Instead of me watching a video. Why not go down to 501 E Fayette Court at either 830am or 1pm and watch the proceedings.

It's free. You can even bring your phone in.

Generally when a case us thrown, it's cuz the landlord forgot to bring a piece if paper.

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It is illegal. However you still see landlords say "no section 8".

Or " the unit won't pass inspection"

Or " income must be 3x rent regardless of voucher"

Or " rent is X. I will not negotiate"

Or " credit must be 700+"

Or " your app was denied. We went with someone else"

Its couched in a lot of ways. When I had LL, I always asked them to be open to section 8. 90% said no.

There's enough ppl looking for rentals who are not using section 8. Unless that's their business model, no landlord needs to headache and red tape of dealing with any voucher.

Not anti renting just anti landlord. Like I said my position is that housing should not be a profit seeking endeavor.

I think your criteria for super easy is absurd.

I think the fact that some ridiculous evictions are thrown out isn’t evidence of a broken system. But the fact that even a thrown out eviction attempt can black mark you is.

A lot of evictions could be avoided if land lords were decent people.

You may want to watch the video I linked for more information about the incredibly one sided system that exists in this country.

Hard disagree.

It's not super easy to evict. Super easy would be an eviction is done in a week after filing. It takes 6 18-19yr weeks to get on the docket then another 1 month at least to even schedule the sheriff to come out.

If it's inclement weather, it's cancelled.

Evictions can be put on hold or rejected at the court hearing.

A lot of evictions can be avoided if tenants talked to the landlords. And do what they said they'll do.

Im not sure how it works in baltimore county because i have retal properties in the county but as soon as that tenant is late and you are able to do so, file your paperwork for eviction. There is a pattern where once they are behind they usually don't get ahead.

THe program should pay the landlord directly. This was my case when a tenant i had was months behind and we couldn't do anything about during the eviction moratorium time.

each situation is different. some loose their jobs and there is nothing they can do till they get back on there feet. Some are honorable get help and get back on track to paying on time

some see it as a year or more of free housing then they are on to the next house.

Well they started the conversation by saying

> There really shouldn’t be landlords outside high occupancy housing.

Is the phrase high occupancy housing confusing?

I've been pretty clear with my position. I don't think landlords should engage in profit seeking. Obviously people are going to rent out rooms to their family or friends and you cant really stop that. But if you're buying a 2 bedroom apartment to charge some guy out the ass just so you can afford a 2 bedroom that you don't need or to use that person to build your own personal wealth then yeah sure I got a problem.

We’re discussing what to do with apartments and condos right now, but we’ll see if I’m smart enough to grasp the concept this time

When you say “not enough people who will take vouchers,” what do you mean? In Maryland it is illegal to discriminate based on source of income (i.e., whether someone’s rent payments come from vouchers, disability, etc.).

Thank you!!!

It’s close but no cigar. Would have to view the relative lack of success of an individual’s stock choice relative to overall market success as a loss for stock to work

Maybe a leveraged position that actively costs money is closer

As far as I can tell you’re the only one arguing for universal free housing. It seems like you got confused by them saying housing is a human right.

Some people will need free housing. We already do that, so that’s not really a stretch tbh.

What they’re arguing for is getting rid of the rental system for houses and low occupancy buildings. It’s not a hard concept to grasp imo.

You said something a few weeks ago after a musical/note segment came back about a brown note and I damn near spit my coffee out. Funny stuff. Please keep doing off the cuff bits. I laugh every time

So I’m asking you what should I do in that situation then? Cover their living expenses for them solely because they aren’t building equity?

I'm currently renting a home. I used to own my own home before I moved here. I could 100% buy if I wanted to. I don't want to. I'm not committed to living where I am for the next 5+ years. I'm very happy to have the ability to rent a home and not be forced into a small, overpriced apartment. I used to own a rental property myself and my tenants were also not looking to own and were very happy to rent my property (as they told me many times). Not everyone who rents wants to own.

This sub (and reddit in general) isn't a place you usually find practical conversation about how programs can impact single-property private landlords trying to comply or 'do the right thing.' I like this comment because it places the onus where it belongs instead of just reflexively making fangs at OP for being a LL.

What is their fair share of the mortgage. 50/50 isn't their share cause ultimately you are the capital owner in that situation and are benefiting from their occupancy.

No its not. Plenty of us are forced to be renters because assholes keep buying everything up to rent out, causing scarcity and higher market prices. So yes, fewer people can afford a house now. There's more to it then that but its a big issue, but I don't feel bad for the people who afford the property upset about losing 22k of passive income. That's part of owning a business. Vet tenets better. In this situation, renegotiate costs until there lease is up based on whichever hardship their on, maybe you could have made Atleast 10k and the less pressure and stress could have helped the family to fix their situation easier. Did he communicate with these tenants and figure out what's going on or just evict after 1 month? (Now the tenants won't work with you because you evicted them before trying anything else, Of course, they won't move out or pay up... theres no incentive, evections make it difficult to find a new place making leaving more difficult.)

Ok but I asked if they just paid their share of the mortgage or whatever and you said you weren’t comfortable with that either, so I’m confused what we’re supposed to do.