Ok.

There are still requirements to participate in the Section 8 program though and a landlord could easily make sure they don't pass the government's inspection.

Section 8 is a mixed bag. For "professional" landlords who have a bunch of properties and understand the system well it can actually be great. Guaranteed payment, often highly stable tenants who rarely move, there are pros to it. OTOH for small-time landlord it forces you into a three-way business arrangement with the government and your tenant that can be a huge hassle. When we considered landlording there was no way I would've dealt with Section 8 tenants.

OP, this is the wrong place to have a rational discussion about landlording. All of the wannabe Maoists on here will act like you're evil for gasp wanting your property rights protected and trying to make a profit on an investment.

Plenty of folks buy properties and let them sit vacant 50-90% of the time. How is that not even worse than renting a property out to be lived in? Just like choosing to be a landlord is an option… choosing to not rent out a secondary property is also an option

Yes it is.

Buying them costs money. Owning them is free.

> It’s in general super easy to evict

That is the most ridiculous thing I've heard in a long time.

I don't think it was always this way. I remember visiting Baltimore as a kid in the early 2000s and being surprised by how clean Downtown was. Maybe 6 or so years ago, there was an article written for the in-flight magazine for Southwest Airlines about Baltimore and the author raved about how clean the city was. People obviously don't even consider negative consequences for littering to even be a possibility. Baltimore just generally does a terrible job of incentivizing pro-social behavior.

Except here the government suddenly added to his risk by arbitrarily preventing him from protecting his property rights.

Or maybe u are both missing the point that wasting $10,000 on a realtor before making back renovation costs vs waiting 1-2 years for bad policy to be fixed isn’t as cut and dry as these ppl who clearly have zero landlord experience seem to think

Or who get out of the landlording business entirely because the government has added too much risk to it. This means fewer rental properties and higher prices, which the same people who vilify landlords will then also complain about.

Yes it’s my video. I’m John Oliver. You got me.

No what I’m asking you to do is watch something by people who actually researched it and have more than an anecdotal view.

TIL owning stocks is free!!!

We looked into becoming landlords a few years ago when moving. Did some informal risk/benefit calculations and nope, not worth it. Sold the old house, threw the money into an S&P 500 index fund. A house that could have been a very reasonably priced rental property stayed off the rental market. Turns out there are consequences to having a system that's unfriendly to landlords.

I think the risk just changes tbh. As a renter I can see the appeal of it. But with rates what they are the risk is so minimal.

Dude. Is this your video? If that why you are fixated?

Liiiike. Who hasn't been on YouTube? Like what kind of question is that?

YouTube is the 2nd largest database in the world. Proceeded by what? Google. Who owns who? YouTube.

What you're asking me to do is watch Emily D. Baker talk about the Depp trial when I could have gone to see it in person.

Not sure at this point why you aren't seeing the correlation.

If you can't afford to take the time off work, ok.

Fair enough.

But don't harangue me about evictions when I've been in District Courts.

It's weird and shows your lack of insight or avarice if you just want clicks on your video.

Aight. I'll watch it some time today. With an open mind too.

Yep, unfortunately lot of folks here do not care about littering. I've been walking down Charles Street in Fed Hill and seen people just chuck their whole McDonalds meal litter out the window right in front of me, or be walking on the sidewalk with a beverage and just drop the container and keep walking. I don't get it.

Some random video? Ok. You could watch it on HBOMax if the platform is what’s bothering you. But it’s legit news. Not some rando.

Have you not been on YouTube?

easy when it's other people's things being stolen of course.

Yea it’s amazing how many people basically see theft as no big deal

Well yes it is, what I meant was that a landlord can choose NOT to rent their property and just let it sit there vacant. I know some older ppl with multiple properties who don’t need the money anymore and are tired of the hassle of dealing with overly entitled renters, so they let their secondary properties sit vacant. Which hurts both renters AND buyers

what prevents crybaby career housing thieves from thieving?

>Yeah fuck journalism.

Ah. You be reaching a lot dude. Like. A lot.

>It’s not some random YouTuber.

All of them are. All youtubers are random was people except the celebs.

>You won’t watch the video

I didn't say that. I probably will later today. I watched a lot of videos anti eviction, and about homelessness. I expect you won't believe me bit I'm versed in the homelessness problem. Not personally thank God but I'm more than aware of it.

>But no I’m not going to lose money taking off of work to get anecdotal data

Right.

Lol. The irony is so fucking funny. More so that it probably escapes you.

You want to throw some random video as proof and I'm telling you to go see it live but.....yea

Lol.

Oooh Reddit, how I love you.

>some see it as a year or more of free housing then they are on to the next house.

apparently, many of the Baltimore Redditors think this gross kind of thievery is a good thing.

I suspect many of the same people will cry when they do own a place and shortly after moving in the HVAC system needs to be replaced and the roof starts to leak. Suddenly that stable, risk-free rent payment looks mighty attractive compared to the impending $15,000+ bill to fix those issues. That's the other side of the coin that people either do not understand or want to selectively ignore. Renting absolves yourself of significant risk. I know several people who have ZERO desire to ever own a home because they enjoy not having to worry about anything home-related. Renting isn't always bad. Owning isn't always good.

Yeah fuck journalism. People can’t manipulate you (apparently) but journalists? That’s all they do. It’s not some random YouTuber.

You won’t watch the video. It conflicts with your narrative. But no I’m not going to lose money taking off of work to get anecdotal data. Thanks.