They are banned in some areas due to them being invasive. Then they came out with like neutered versions but those are still invasive. I believe they are banned in PA now but don't quote me and I'm too lazy to find a source.

>So how is your conclusion that discharging effluent at 4 ppm into the sewers is totally cool?

EPA limits are for vinyl chloride 2ppb. The highest concentration in the waste that was meant for here was 62ppb (or 0.062ppm). So yeah, pretty sure they weren't going to discharge at 4ppm...

>This is quite different I would think than dumping a huge amount of effluent that still has significant amounts of it into, effectively, the bay.

I think your sizes are off, 600,000 gallons is not a "huge amount" in this context.

My point is that you clearly have no idea what you're talking about. You've read a headline and are now outraged, and after this week you'll go about your life unaware of all the waste water that Clean Harbors treats and discharges to the sewer system.

Same! And I was in PA.

They're invasive and banned in some areas. Not sure if they're banned in baltmore or maryland yet though but let's hope so.

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I think the cities plant them as they grow quickly and dont require much maintenance, generally dont cause root issues. They are EVERYWHERE in my hometown of Fresno, CA and they are known as the "jizz trees." They stink and announce the arrival of allergy season. The worst.

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Geez-us! It's three weeks out of the year. DEAL WITH IT!

Thanks. This confirms the trees near my house are Bradford Pear and not Dogwoods. I cannot smell the pear trees (thank goodness, apparently!).

I really have two responses to this, first, yes of course I can claim that, because a small handful of VC incidents over 30 years of course doesn't contradict my point that we don't currently have any VC in the harbor or bay. Anyway, second more in depth response:

Yes, there have been a few incidents where vinyl chloride has been detected in small areas in the watershed. These are brief points in time and not a consistent presence of VC. This is quite different I would think than dumping a huge amount of effluent that still has significant amounts of it into, effectively, the bay. And to be clear, one of your links doesn't show a vinyl chloride leak, it lists VC as a chemical of concern. Another shows that it was detected at just over 1 ppb in a very small area. The Frog Martin link says that was an area of concern because, in part, vinyl chloride was found in the area (at a concentration of 0.7 ppb). The sum of all of this is that the detection of virtually any vinyl chloride in any area in the Chesapeake watershed has been a Big Deal. So how is your conclusion that discharging effluent at 4 ppm into the sewers is totally cool?

I found a really good article about how they came to be the invasive monster they now are. Maryland had a lot to do with it.

LOL the implication that anyone who cares about poor people must also be poor and jobless. 😂😂😂 I have a job and I pay my taxes so that people who have less can receive the help they need.

It costs $0 to not be a jackass 🤷🏻‍♀️

That's good, considering how often our waste water overflows into the bay.

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Nice work to the citizens and politicians that stood up to this

Awwww the cum trees!!

>The wastewater that was scheduled to arrive in Baltimore from the East Palestine, Ohio, train derailment will be processed elsewhere, treatment company Clean Harbors said Tuesday morning.

>“While we are confident that our Baltimore facility is safe to handle and process that waste, as we have made clear from the beginning of this process, we would only be moving forward with the approval of all federal, state and local regulators,” Clean Harbors spokesman Jim Buckley said.

>The news comes in response to a move by Baltimore Mayor Brandon Scott to deny the Southwest Baltimore facility the ability to dump the treated wastewater from Ohio into the city’s sewer system and wastewater plant.

They make great firewood. Just saying'.

>We don't have any detectable vinyl chloride in the bay or harbor right now

How can you claim that? We've shown it multiple times, in multiple areas of the Bay, over the last 30 years:

Frog Mortar Creek, near Martin State Airport (2014)

EPA found 19 OCPSF and 12 Petroleum Refining facilities as the worst offenders in the Chesapeake in 2004, Vinyl Chloride was a subcategory of note within OCPSFs

Chesapeake Watershed Chemical's of Concern (2000)

Indian Acres on the Sassafras in 1996

I saw a few other sources published by Williams and Mary in 1992, but the scans didn't have OCR and were tough to navigate.

>If you read my comment my concern isnt that the company isnt capable of treating the waste its that the 'acceptable levels' of toxins in the effluent are not acceptable to me.

Again, this facility specializes in this, it's within their purview, they've probably handled Vinyl Chloride or other Chlor-Alkalis before (and likely worse on a regular basis), you just haven't been paying attention because it hasn't made national news.

It's totally fine if you've now decided that this is a concern, but then why are we just stopping this single occasion? The industrial waste treatment plant should be completely closed, right?

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20 years and counting

So that's what that smell is

I ride down Orleans street by hopkins all the time windows down and theres a ton of them along the road. Just smells like eastiside to me. I see the trees and think theyre really beautiful. It sucks to know that people are dying slowly inside just going by them lol. I'm gonna go sniff a tree to see if its really just me.

The city needs to get its crime problem under control first. I honestly think if the city conducts a lottery and gives renovated houses away to people for free, it would be a great way of building back the tax base. But the city needs to ensure residents' safety first.

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