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Waze rep here, the “aggressive routing” is due to the No Turn On Red restriction at the light at Cold Spring/Harford. You could lift that restriction, at the peril of pedestrians (hint: don’t do this) and solve the problem. You could also (and should) make List Ave one way eastbound and put a No Left Turn restriction at the east end, effectively negating the usefulness of the cut through. The barrier option could have unintended consequences like impacts to emergency vehicles (and it looks low budget.)

That's great! I'll stop bugging you after this, I promise, but I had one more thought.

What about publishing on https://data.baltimorecity.gov/? That would be amazing.

We are so grateful for your work!

What we’d like to be able to do is share that data directly with Waze themselves so that they can make appropriate changes. The progressional relationship is rather new, but we’re planning on doing even more with them.

I agree! If I'm feeling wings no other spot even comes to mind, it's iBar every time

I wouldn’t be surprised if she got a spot on the campaign team with the timing

I think we've reached out to the Old Goucher neighborhood association but have not heard back yet. If you have more direct contact info for this person, can you dm me if you're comfortable doing that? We'd definitely love to get them involved.

List avenue has become a giant bendy straw and can only be used for giant milkshakes now.

I love it!

We’re so serious that we put a barrier at the beginning of the street. 😊

Interesting!

> Waze is constantly updating the map itself

I'm a part of that. For the past few years, I've been pretty active as a volunteer map editor for the city. I've added thousands of updates and additions, especially in East Bmore. One challenge is the fact that unfortunate routing problems are somewhat obfuscated from us. But if we were able to have broader insight into where we should mitigate these kinds of issues, it'd be great for Waze users and hopefully for city traffic in general!!

Oversimplified explanation: we have several different metadata we can apply to intersections and road segments which can impact how aggressive the routing algorithm will be with them. If we know about where there are likely problems with routing, we can work to improve them!

I don't necessarily want to add to your (likely considerable) burden, but I wonder if it'd be okay to suggest something like this: Would you guys consider sharing information regarding traffic patterns with the volunteers or reps?

How long ago was the request denied? Do you still have the reference number?

You should also reach out to Kelly Cross in Old Goucher. He has brought Chuck to talk in Old Goucher at least once, maybe twice before.

Okidoke, will do. Thank you.

When your councilperson yells at DOT as consistently as Dorsey does to get this stuff installed. That's the only reason this is happening.

You mean when we're all dead? Sure.

But we both know the better gain would be more/better public transit so that the roads were quiet because people weren't on them but still alive.

Any word on the red line coming back with Wes Moore?

Nope. We are only working with road closures at this time. Waze is constantly updating the map itself, so we’re providing them with the most up-to-date data of whatever we’re physically doing on the ground so they can do what they’re best at.

> Well, this isn’t just a Waze update. Concrete barriers are being placed.

Yep, I totally got that (The "try not to drive through the concrete barrier" comment is the best thing to come out of official City communication channels in the history of forever). But more clarification never hurt anyone, so thanks for communicating that!

> But yes; we work very closely with Waze reps and traffic professionals. We have a partnership with them, and any and all closures (temporary and permanent) you see us announcing are getting uploaded to Waze so you can use it to navigate around them.

That's cool to hear. One note: Your answer specifically mentions road closures, but my question was more about mitigation of aggressive routing in cases where road closures are not done. Is that something you also work on with Waze reps?

At least we’ll have quiet, pedestrian-friendly roads. Net gain?

/r/wholesometransportation

Stoplights timing is something we work on perpetually, yes.

We’re out of McNuggets.

Well, this isn’t just a Waze update. Concrete barriers are being placed.

But yes; we work very closely with Waze reps and traffic professionals. We have a partnership with them, and any and all closures (temporary and permanent) you see us announcing are getting uploaded to Waze so you can use it to navigate around them.

When is the leading pedestrian interval pilot starting? I was promised one at 29th and Huntingdon a few months ago.

Guess she'll me managing her husbands strip club