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gaytee t1_ixiyrjj wrote

Why the fuck do humans do parades. It costs over 10m to do macys thanksgiving in new York and provides less than an hour of entertainment, and that assumes you can even call parades entertainment.

Maybe I’m just missing the point and that’s fine, but I think our city can spend money on things better than dressing up and walking down a road that most of the citizens didn’t want closed because even though All the rich yts get thanksgiving off, some of us still have to go to work.

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throws_rocks_at_cars t1_ixiy2s6 wrote

I was trying to Google what cheap Chinese liquor comes in cans but I gave up since I couldn’t figure it out. Submitted that comment with a Chinese liquor and hoped the message would carry.

Tell me what the ratchet drunks of China do be drinking out of cans? For future zingers. Please and thanks.

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cologne_peddler t1_ixivj5f wrote

>The sum total of your rebuttal to my claims is: "nuh-uh."

Well yea, Professor...my entire point is that you you don't have evidence to prove these weak ass arguments lmao. I'm essentially poking holes in your unfounded assertions. Duh.

>You provide no data to support your positions, you flippantly disregard any actual evidence I point to, and you twist my words every chance you get. "

All I'm doing is pointing out how your sources don't support what you're saying. That's my "data" lol.

>I'm careening towards that cliché definition of insanity by trying again with some actual evidence and data, but here we go:

Lmao it's always funny watching disconnected white folk use polls to explain Black people's feelings. Lol this shit is basically sketch comedy. Why do so many of yall do this without appreciating the absurdity?

>I don't know if 81% of black Americans saying they want police to spend the same amount or more time in their neighborhoods can be considered "near-universal", but this is America, so 81% agreement on anything is pretty damn conclusive.

Your little poll also says

>Fewer than one in five Black Americans feel very confident that the police in their area would treat them with courtesy and respect.
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>However, 59% of the relatively small group of Black Americans who are "not at all confident" that the police would treat them with courtesy and respect want the police to spend less time in their neighborhood.
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>When factoring in those who are at least somewhat confident that the police would treat them well, a majority of Black Americans (61%) are generally confident, but this is still below the 85% seen nationally, including 91% of White Americans.

I get that you don't actually talk to any Black people, but the conflicting sentiments in your own source should give you pause. Somewhere between "80% of Black people don't want fewer cops in their neighborhoods" and "75% of Black people don't have confidence in being treated fairly by cops" is a group of people who are probably sympathetic to the idea that maybe that entire institution is ineffective. I've had those conversations. Even the people who ultimately disagree aren't as intransigent as some coddled Federal Hill brat who's never been been mistreated or brutalized by cops.

>https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2021/10/police-reform-polls-white-black-crime.html

And prior to Civil Rights passing, 60% to 70% of Black people polled thought mass demonstrations hurt efforts for racial equality.

The idea of defunding cops is relatively new in mainstream discourse, and in the little time it's been here, it's been oversimplified, misinterpreted or demonized without nuance. So it's entirely unremarkable that 90% of people polled aren't on board after sitting with it for a couple years. If this were 1963, you'd be holding a newspaper and shrieking at protestors too lol.

>Also, if policing can do absolutely nothing to reduce homicides, how do you explain the fact that BPD pulled back in 2015 and murders skyrocketed?

Where the fuck are you getting this from, the FOP website? The whole "cops pulled back and things got worse" bullshit is dumb ass police union propaganda. Fucking do better.

>Also, how do explain the fact that homicides plummeted in NYC in the 90s and inequality arguably just got worse? The evidence is clear that solving poverty is not as clean of a solution to crime as you think it is.

Right...you mean the decade the poverty rate fell precipitously? When unemployment fell to under 5% for the first time in decades? Yea, I'm sure that refutes the correlation between poverty and crime somehow.

You can lead a fool to data but you can't make him understand it.

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procrastimom OP t1_ixil8ga wrote

Thanks so much all my helpful Charm City friends! Luckily for me, they let us all go at 11:00 today (I guess the judges needed to start to roll out their pie crusts). So although I didn’t get to anyplace today, I’ll definitely save this link for future reference. Have a Happy Turkey Day, ‘hons!

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