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DfcukinLite t1_j0du4v7 wrote

Below I’ve listed a little light reading for you to educate yourself on the origins of Christmas and it’s hijack of pagan winter solace traditions. Im not incorrect.

https://www.britannica.com/topic/Christmas

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/wbna50284202

https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/the-unexpected-pagan-origins-of-popular-christmas-traditions/

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Elias_The_Thief t1_j0dtcou wrote

I think you should double check your history. While its true that Christmas is intertwined with the winter solstice, and, certain traditions that became Christmas traditions were taken from Pagan celebrations (among others) to say it is 'based on' a pagan holiday is egregiously incorrect.

I would recommend the entire wiki article, but the bit about concurrent celebrations is particularly relevant: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christmas#Relation_to_concurrent_celebrations

Christmas is, quite explicitly, a celebration of the birth of Christianity's most important religious figure and not 'based on' the winter solstice just because a few traditions were stolen or incorporated to ease assimilation.

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DfcukinLite t1_j0dlho9 wrote

You apparently have feels about Xmas or something. But can confidently say it’s not really that religious because it’s based of a pagan holiday. But that’s awhile another topic of conversation, much like how you just hijacked and derailed my innocent wholesome thread. You could use some Xmas cheer.

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addctd2badideas t1_j0dk80a wrote

Except that's DEFINITELY not my perception. I don't care if your Xmas involves "child son of God but also not" or "magic home invasion mailman in red"... it's not my holiday and you can't go anywhere without incessant holiday music playing... and it's always the same goddamn songs over and over.

It's always the goyim who tell me to "be merry" as if the Christmas Hegemony doesn't exist. Kinda like how Evangelicals complain how oppressed they are when they're a quarter of the entire population.

Let people be and stop shoving your holidays down the throats of people who don't want it.

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why_grapefruit_why t1_j0dk27a wrote

I think I post on every one of these updates but if anyone in the comments hasn’t had iBar’s wings, you really need to go.

Also Don’t Know taverns wings are almost as good and are $6 on Wednesdays + all drafts are $5.

I eat a lot of wings.

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DfcukinLite t1_j0dhjqr wrote

Ok, I’m confused. You say there’s no market or interest. But then you admit that as a Jewish person it’s nice to feel acknowledged in a society dominated in a different holiday you don’t celebrate? What’s the disconnect here?

Nevermind the over commercialization of Xmas and other “Christian” holidays because it’s the majorities default religious background here it makes sense bc capitalism...

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th1smustbetheplace t1_j0dfveu wrote

I actually don't think there's an untapped market that's interested in buying big decorations for major Jewish holidays like Rosh Hashanah and Passover. If there was, it would have been tapped by now! One of the best parts of those holidays, IMO, is that they're not commercial like Christian holidays; you don't have to buy anything other than food, and the festivities are generally family gatherings and (if you're religious or more observant) going to temple.

I think people like the Hanukkah house on 34th Street because as a Jewish person, it can be nice to feel acknowledged at a time when it feels like the entire world is wrapped up in a holiday you don't celebrate. But I don't think liking this guy's decorations means that most Jewish people want to decorate this way, or want their holidays to have 5 dedicated aisles of merchandise at Target every year.

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DfcukinLite t1_j0dbykm wrote

Ok. I get that that Hanukkah isn’t the Christmas equivalent in true Jew faith, but for the sake of this articles topic it is, and clearly there a missing market/need for it. So, I’ll expand that and ask why isn’t there any festive things or decorations for any Jew(ish) holidays like Rosh Hashanah, etc?

Also, aren’t we late stage jew assimilation per US history? This is a judo-Christian society

I get that Judaism is a minority religious group and there’s only so many pockets of enclaves across the US.. but say in Baltimore/MD(Pikesville, OM,etc) for example; I would think there would be. I mean, we get these federal holidays off here. I’ve met many’s Jews moving to Baltimore Co, going the college here, living and working than I did in Harford county were there wasn’t any in my schools.

There just clearly a missing market/interest seems odd to me that I hasn’t been tapped into hardly at this point in society. I personally would be interested in the cultural festivities is all. Now I have friends that I have, but I think exposure is important.

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addctd2badideas t1_j0dbj1g wrote

Because the holiday season is already insufferable enough as it is without us making a fuss about a minor holiday that's been overblown because of Xmas. While you people are really enjoying the festive birth of your savior while we're celebrating a bargain for 8 fucking days. Not to mention the history of Hanukkah is kinda celebrating religious fundamentalism.

Sorry to be a downer. Happy holidays I guess.

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th1smustbetheplace t1_j0d92db wrote

Hanukkah's a pretty minor Jewish holiday; it's not the Jewish equivalent of Christmas. Its profile has risen over the years because it gives Jewish parents an easy way to make sure their kids don't feel left out of all of the festivities and gift-giving in the Christian mainstream in December, but beyond that, it's not a big deal.

Additionally, many Jews feel that this kind of decorating is inherently assimilationist. Obviously there's a range of opinions out there, and a lot of Jewish folks get a lot of joy out of going all out like the house on 34th Street does. But I think it's fair to say that decorating for Hanukkah isn't a tradition the way it is for Christians to decorate for Christmas.

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