Apparently they should have said, "my sallyway"

Thanks. I live near St. paul & read street

Sure will. Because facts matter.

Better than mindlessly parroting the same paragraph that doesn't even support your point over and over like an automaton. Have a nice night.

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Must be nice to be delusional

You don’t know anything 😂😂😂

And you’re mad I’m right

You're repeating yourself, and you're still wrong.

Lmao

Try speaking in complete sentences before trying to argue with someone who knows more than you.

Again, the selection of the name and date have little to do with what the holiday is celebrating and whether it is religious. I'm afraid you've gone and got a little lost in the sauce on this one.

The precise origin of assigning December 25 as the birth date of Jesus is unclear. The New Testament provides no clues in this regard. December 25 was first identified as the date of Jesus’ birth by Sextus Julius Africanus in 221 and later became the universally accepted date. One widespread explanation of the origin of this date is that December 25 was the Christianizing of the dies solis invicti nati (“day of the birth of the unconquered sun”), a popular holiday in the Roman Empire that celebrated the winter solstice as a symbol of the resurgence of the sun, the casting away of winter and the heralding of the rebirth of spring and summer. Indeed, after December 25 had become widely accepted as the date of Jesus’ birth, Christian writers frequently made the connection between the rebirth of the sun and the birth of the Son. One of the difficulties with this view is that it suggests a nonchalant willingness on the part of the Christian church to appropriate a pagan festival when the early church was so intent on distinguishing itself categorically from pagan beliefs and practices.

grasping at straws..

In what way does the origin of the name support your point? The celebration existed long before the modern name but was always to do with celebration of the birth of Christ. Good try again.

This is referring to the selection of the date and has nothing to do with the basis of the holiday. Nice try though.

Milkweed Ceramics :)

From your own sources:

"Though December 25 is the day Christians celebrate the birth of Jesus Christ, the date itself and several of the customs we've come to associate with Christmas actually evolved from pagan traditions celebrating the winter solstice."

"It's a mistake to say that our modern Christmas traditions come directly from pre-Christian paganism, said Ronald Hutton, a historian at Bristol University in the United Kingdom. However, he said, you'd be equally wrong to believe that Christmas is a modern phenomenon."

"Christmas, Christian festival celebrating the birth of Jesus."

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Like I said, certain traditions were stolen and incorporated. No one is denying that. However, Christians celebrated the birth of Christ well before those pagan traditions were incorporated into the celebrations. This is all well detailed in the wiki article I linked, chock full of academic sources. It is also fully acknowledged in all of the sources you provided, which, to be honest, I'm not sure you've actually read beyond the headline.

I am sorry that you are incapable of admitting that you are wrong, or of understanding nuance, and that you care more about your own pride than the historical accuracy of your statements, but to each their own. I'm gonna move on because like most people in these threads, I'm done reading your ignorant contrarian takes.

The precise origin of assigning December 25 as the birth date of Jesus is unclear. The New Testament provides no clues in this regard. December 25 was first identified as the date of Jesus’ birth by Sextus Julius Africanus in 221 and later became the universally accepted date. One widespread explanation of the origin of this date is that December 25 was the Christianizing of the dies solis invicti nati (“day of the birth of the unconquered sun”), a popular holiday in the Roman Empire that celebrated the winter solstice as a symbol of the resurgence of the sun, the casting away of winter and the heralding of the rebirth of spring and summer. Indeed, after December 25 had become widely accepted as the date of Jesus’ birth, Christian writers frequently made the connection between the rebirth of the sun and the birth of the Son. One of the difficulties with this view is that it suggests a nonchalant willingness on the part of the Christian church to appropriate a pagan festival when the early church was so intent on distinguishing itself categorically from pagan beliefs and practices.

“The early Christian community distinguished between the identification of the date of Jesus’ birth and the liturgical celebration of that event. The actual observance of the day of Jesus’ birth was long in coming. In particular, during the first two centuries of Christianity there was strong opposition to recognizing birthdays of martyrs or, for that matter, of Jesus. Numerous Church Fathers offered sarcastic comments about the pagan custom of celebrating birthdays when, in fact, saints and martyrs should be honoured on the days of their martyrdom—their true “birthdays,” from the church’s perspective.”

“Christmas, Christian festival celebrating the birth of Jesus. The English term Christmas (“mass on Christ’s day”) is of fairly recent origin. The earlier term Yule may have derived from the Germanic jōl or the Anglo-Saxon geōl, which referred to the feast of the winter solstice. The corresponding terms in other languages—Navidad in Spanish, Natale in Italian, Noël in French—all probably denote nativity. The German word Weihnachten denotes “hallowed night.” Since the early 20th century, Christmas has also been a secular family holiday, observed by Christians and non-Christians alike, devoid of Christian elements, and marked by an increasingly elaborate exchange of gifts. In this secular Christmas celebration, a mythical figure named Santa Claus plays the pivotal role. Christmas is celebrated on Sunday, December 25, 2022.”

https://www.britannica.com/topic/Christmas

White Hill Pottery, also in Hampden, might be worth a look. They're on 33rd St and actually have a neat little self-service pottery stand you can shop at all hours! I know for a fact they make bowls with/for chopsticks. I think their instagram gives a sense of their current stock.

Depends on what part of Mt. Vernon and which garage/management company you’ll be working with. I currently pay $180/month (will increase to $195 in January 2023) with an SP+ property.

You can stick you head in the sand and sing “La La La” but it is. Evidently. Per full blown credible sources.

Totally agree man, this dude is a joker with no clue what he is talking about. Honestly hope its a troll account.

You are completely incorrect in saying that Christmas is based on pagan holidays. As I noted, I'm not denying that traditions of winter solstice (among others) were stolen or incorporated, but to say that Christmas itself is based on it is a pretty shallow and ignorant interpretation.

I find it funny that you can't even manage to read my comment or spell solstice right but you still think you know what you're talking about because you posted a couple nbc news articles. This honestly has to be a troll account.

Also, did you read your sources? They support my position better than your own, lol.