Using deadly force to purely defend property is per se unreasonable, but, there is a default presumption that someone breaking into your house is a threat to your safety.

There are some apple sellers at the farmer's market. You could see if they have a surplus. I am referencing the Baltimore Farmers market bazaar underneath the jfx overpass. They are done for the year but will pick up again at some point.

They could also sub-lease it. Maybe they’ll stick around, as they have other offices and facilities in the area. I’m skeptical because it’s typically not a great sign when a company moves its HQ out of state.

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Another one bites the dust.

Stand your ground policies have been shown to correlate with increases in gun homicides. Hard pass.

Different Pandora. This is the one that makes those little metal charm bracelets that your great aunt loves.

It says through 2026 so I’m guessing they’d have to break lease to do it

Companies come and go fairly often, trying to find the “next big place to be.” This isn’t a death knell for Baltimore, otherwise Pandora would’ve abandoned it and paid their lease break fee. Inner Harbor is definitely not conducive to businesses wanting to stay currently, but the changes will come without the liberal/conservative calls for the “death of Baltimore”

Wrong pandora, my friend!

i shouldve specified, id love to buy used if possible.

(Thanks, though!)

They’re taking the actual concept of music with them too. So listen while you can.

In 2017, my husband fought off a juvenile who tried to steal his car as he dropped our then 18-month old off at daycare. It was a coordinated effort, and happened at a nearby daycare one street over the day before. The assailant escaped into a waiting getaway car and was caught 48 hours later.

The officers responding said my spouse was lucky he didn’t hurt the kid, and the entire judicial process treated my spouse like the bad guy for fighting back against an experienced criminal (the assailant had recently been released from state custody). He ended up being charged as a juvenile because of “low IQ, slight stature, and history of cannabis abuse.” From experience, I’m willing to bet he’s either re-offended or re-incarcerated by now.

I don’t buy “stand your ground,” but I wish victims/potential victims didn’t have to worry about liability resulting from defense of person and property.

I bought a few at Joann's a while back.

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Maybe? The problem is that it’s been reported that the guy with the bat had turned and was walking away when the kid shot him. It’s possible that there is evidence which shows something different but if not then it doesn’t qualify as a self defense or stand your ground situation. There was a case in Florida a few years ago where a guy was yelling at a woman for parking in the handicap spot. Her boyfriend came out and immediately shoved him to the ground. The guy responded by shooting and killing him. He claimed stand your ground but was charged with murder and went to prison. Basically he didn’t give her boyfriend enough time to register that he had a gun, which arguably would have been enough to stop most people from continuing to fight.

> Castle doctrine. You’re fine attacking someone defending yourself in your home.

Fixed that for you.

How much you want to bet that they close the Baltimore office in 2024?

It's true. With the loss of Pandora, there is no hope for this hellhole.

This is what I was told by a lawyer who defends folks in this position, but I ABSOLUTELY may be wrong.

Companies move all the time. Especially to NYC. Pandora has been here since 2009. At least they fulfilled their lease agreement. Good for them for expanding when other companies are completely remote. I don’t see this as a “Baltimore is doomed” situation.

About the Argentinian-German connection?

If it was legal for the squeegee man to carry in MD:
Coming up with a bat, yes.
Shooting him in the back, no.

That isn’t true. You only have to prove that use of force was reasonable.

Not really a tangent. They are keeping Baltimore office until 2026 when their lease expires. They will not renew. Is that office even occupied now? I know they already downsized it at one point. The building in Baltimore will have a giant hole in it with 90K SF gone and an employ base no longer there.