Can’t believe i just bought that one a week ago

Better still there's a great bbc adaptation

Jesus, you people are a tedious bunch, eh.

I get your point. I by no means support the author, but the book was really entertaining and clever written.

Many deeper meanings people find in literature are forced at are not what the author meant to have in.

Wow that sounds good. I think it's from when they escaped the city. I haven't got that far yet.

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I love this story. Also I was curious so I found a PDF version and replaced all the male pronouns and titles with female ones, just to see if it became a different story. It did. It was super interesting in how differently it felt (come to think of it, I never did finish reading that version. Maybe that is how I should spend these last 3 days of vacation)

Le Guin has some good interviews where she talked about why she ultimately decided to use masculine pronouns. Let me see if I can find one … OH. It is in the afterward of at least one of the versions. http://theliterarylink.com/afterword.html

Yes, the plots are only loosely intertwined, you’ll love it. LeGuin is one of my favorite authors.

It’s so good it’s ruined other audiobooks for me because they pale in comparison

The Dungeon Crawler Carl series is so perfectly done I have to give it a shoutout.

It was so well narrated that the ending brought me some tears of joy. I’ve never experienced that from an audiobook before.

I do most of my non-fiction in audiobook form and my favorites are An Immense World by Ed Yong, A Promised Land by Barack Obama, and Together by Vivek Murthy

I completely agree with you. I thought that I missed something but at the end of day, everyone can interpret anything however they feel like.

Thank you. Yes, they also have synchronized e & audio in their x-book format. I was hoping you had experience with them, but I think they are relatively new.

There is a term for this:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Literary_nonsense

Alice as much as there is supposed to be a "point" to the books, the main one seems to be riffing of the endless number of po-faced didactic moralistic poetry that Victorian children were force-fed as part of their education.

All of the poetry in the two books are nonsense parodies of those poems.

Its a loose series that is not needed to be read in order. Left Hand of Darkness and The Dispossessed take place on completely different planets/cultures and times

The chapters dedicated to the system of canals and drains in Paris... incredible book.

You enjoyed the book as it was meant to be enjoyed. That does not make you dumb. Finding deeper meanings is something you hunt for on multiple readings. Enjoy the stories, and only find deeper meanings if you enjoy doing so.

Exactly

Thanks, I need to get better that that

I've never heard of it before tbh. It looks like an audiobook platform, rather than a self-publishing platform, so I'd have to contact them to find out.

I don’t believe Alice in Wonderland really was written with much deeper meaning intended, it’s just a wild, entertaining children story that veers into absurdity.

I would say, if I were forced to look for some deeper interpretation, that it kind of subverts a lot of the expectations that people tended to have for children stories. Compare it to something like Stevenson’s Treasure Island, that has an easy-to-digest plot, lots of upfront, easy to understand symbolism, and all the different songs and poems and conversations work together thematically to build the same excited, romantic feeling in the reader. Everything which feels like it should be significant, is. At the end of the day, we all learn a valuable lesson about loyalty and greed and bravery and stuff.

Then you have Alice and Through the Looking Glass, in which the plot just abruptly does whatever it wants, the characters confidently use a lot of clever sounding symbolism and idioms but it’s all intentionally made-up and nonsensical, and there isn’t really any rhyme or reason to what is significant and what isn’t, it’s just a fun chaotic ride.

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