Recent comments in /f/books

NekuraHitokage t1_j5lipwu wrote

I did not miss it. You ignored the three surrounding clauses and leaned heavily on one. All parts are important and the other three simply outweigh that one, so it was never mentioned. Not ignored.

> (1)the purpose and character of the use, including whether such use is of a commercial nature or is for nonprofit educational purposes;

Nonprofit educational. Degrading eyesight makes a digital copy with scalable text make sense. Individual has agreed to one personal use digital copy.

> (2)the nature of the copyrighted work;

A physical book that I will boldly assume is available in one font purchased through a proper author to retailer chain.

> (3)the amount and substantiality of the portion used in relation to the copyrighted work as a whole; and

The entirety.

> (4)the effect of the use upon the potential market for or value of the copyrighted work."

None, as this copy will remain on this individual's personal device and is acting as a replacement for their physical copy which they are retaining.

With all these factors in mind, i think it is perfectly acceptable to allow it. These are a set of criteria. It doesn't even say that it cannot be done, merely that these factors will be considered when judging a case. It is then up to the judge to rule on the criteria set forth.

Were I the judge, I would deem it well within rights for fair use since it is a personal copy allowing the purchaser to continue enjoying what they purchased in spite of their degrading health. Maybe with a cheeky warning about having the foresight to buy the digital copy first next time with thr amazingly and frustratingly connected world we live in.

I didn't ignore anything. You're focusing on one thing too much.

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pipestein t1_j5lic8p wrote

I read a lot of genre and the two channels that I can stand are:

Media Death Cult

Mike's Book Reviews

I find book tube to not be worth my time. Not for reviews. From time to time I will watch a vid just to find some new titles but I generally do not pay attention to the reviews. Mostly because it is awash in a sea of YA. Also a lot of the reviews will read the same books and gush over them. I read it and find that it is a boring piece of trash fiction that is a romance novel masquerading as an adventure story.

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Disparition_2022 t1_j5lglvx wrote

Again, there is an element of "fair use" you are missing. Here is the law:

>"Notwithstanding the provisions of sections 106 and 106A, the fair use of a copyrighted work, including such use by reproduction in copies or phonorecords or by any other means specified by that section, for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching (including multiple copies for classroom use), scholarship, or research, is not an infringement of copyright. In determining whether the use made of a work in any particular case is a fair use the factors to be considered shall include—(1)the purpose and character of the use, including whether such use is of a commercial nature or is for nonprofit educational purposes;(2)the nature of the copyrighted work;(3)the amount and substantiality of the portion used in relation to the copyrighted work as a whole; and(4)the effect of the use upon the potential market for or value of the copyrighted work."

I bolded the third point because it's the one you seem to keep ignoring, the relationship between the portion used and the work as a whole. You can use a portion of a work for educational purposes or criticism, that doesn't mean you are within rights to copy the entire thing.

Note also that the specific reasons mentioned for "fair use" include education, criticism, reporting, and teaching. There is absolutely no mention of personal archival copies, nor anything related to if your eyesight gets bad.

I'm certainly open to other definitions of fair use which is why I asked where you are getting yours, but this is the law as I found it.

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Somalikes1979 t1_j5lftsz wrote

As an indie author please don’t steal. It’s expensive and time consuming to create a book.

First there is the writing of the book, which can take between a month to years to write depending on many factors. That part is “free” but the whole adage of ‘time is money’ should more than explain why it’s not really free to write. Then the editing and proofreading cost can go between a couple hundred dollars to thousands depending on how many times the book goes through that gauntlet. After that you have the cost of cover design and marketing which can set you back from very little to thousands, again depending on if you design your own cover or don’t bother promoting the book.

It’s not a lucrative endeavour at all. It’s a labour of love. So please don’t steal.

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danellender t1_j5lfcgx wrote

The Secret History by Donna Tartt:

>THE SNOW in the mountains was melting and Bunny had been dead for several weeks before we came to understand the gravity of our situation.

Who or what is Bunny? A little kid's rabbit? Who is narrating? What kind of person? Several weeks dead? Just now coming to understand the 'gravity' of the situation?

Maybe this makes me want to read it all over again.

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Disparition_2022 t1_j5ld3yn wrote

They definitely matter. In addition to things like font size and capitalization, the physical size and shape of a book can also be an issue, unconventionally shaped books can really fuck up a nice shelving system! Although I find this is usually more an issue with large art and photography books than fiction or non-fiction.

Back in the 90's there was a magazine called Raygun that used to be "playful" with their type and you'd constantly see shit like one small word being s t r e t c h e d out across a line, it was super irritating.

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AskMeWhatISaid t1_j5lci8n wrote

The presentation is as important as the story. It can be an amazing story, well told, but if it's "arranged" and "presented" on the page in a weird, disruptive, unattractive, or confusing manner ... it's not going to get read. At the very least it will definitely be harder to read, and divert attention from the story as I now instead have to to puzzle out presentation and other decisions.

I look through a lot amateur stuff in certain subject categories. It is absolutely ridiculous how so few, so very few people understand that running spell check, and understanding basic grammar, is essential to making a story readable. How to use "quotation marks to indicate that, in fact, what is being read is dialog and not narrative text." How to begin a new paragraph each time the speaker changes.

Don't even get me started about Point of View. One of the fastest ways for me to immediately give up on any story is if they insist on writing in first person, but then want to change how many "first person characters" there are. Aka, Bob is "I", but then in the next section "I" is Jane, and then later "I" is Bob again, and then "I" becomes Phil, and on and on. Holy Crap is that annoying and distracting.

It is extremely distracting, to the point of being unreadable, to have to stop constantly to figure out ... is this dialog, or is it something else. Why are they using their instead of they're and your instead of you're constantly. Why does every single word ending in s instead end in 's.

As for "formatting presentation", that matters too. For me, since I read on screens for the past fifteen years, I have my reader app set in a way I like. A beige paper-like background, across which black text flows as I advance pages. The text file, aka the book, should just be formatted to supply the text with basic text formatting, not color or any other kind of formatting. Paragraphs, quotation marks, and we're good; tell your story now because that's what I signed up for. Which shouldn't be a tough ask since presumably the writer wrote it to tell the story in the first place, not show off design.

Now with a paper book, sure there's a thing about page presentation. But even there, I still mostly don't want to notice the presentation. I'm reading for the book, not for "oooh, look at what they did, how cute, how clever." "Presentation" should be invisible, should support the text and the story, not distract from it.

I want text on a page, and if the pages distract from the text, that's bad "presentation" and I'm much less likely to get more than a few pages in before I decide they focused on the wrong thing. If they cared that much about stuff other than the story, I figure they didn't care about the part I do, so we must not be a good match. On to the next story.

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periphrasistic t1_j5lch58 wrote

The vast majority of published material doesn’t stay in print. The stuff from centuries past that is still readily available, actively discussed and referenced, and still exerting influence on our culture are not doing so because of their age but in spite of their age. Time has a great filtering effect. You’re not obligated to like, for example, Moby Dick, but if you think people still talk about it only because it’s old, then you have things precisely backwards. Which is why it’s worth putting in the effort to learn to read books that otherwise seem archaic and strange: the only reason you’re aware of their existence is because so many people over so many generations have continued to find something of value there.

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NekuraHitokage t1_j5lc258 wrote

Yes.

As one would be purchasing their initial copy of the book.

I have been handed an entire plastic punch-bound cover to cover copy of a book to read along in class only to turn them in at the end.

Part of copyright is the distribution aspect. I was incorrect on my statement of "1000." An exaggeration. But for fair use it would be a simple lack of sale or distribution. It is not being distributed, sold, or otherwise causing some undue commercial impact to the party that sold the book as it was already purchased. The purchaser cannot read two books at the same time, will not be offering one book to one person whooe they read theirs (which, in the case of a book club, would it not be fair use for educational purpose?)

Copyright is intended to protect the sales and ownership of a work. If a person is making a copy for personal use, they may as well have made no copy at all as only that one person will ever use it.

I suppose I could also argue archival context, but again... I'm not a lawyer. What I do see is a law that is made to protect the integrity and ownership of a work as well as to make sure the owner of that work is fairly compensated for their work. As long as that is not broken, no law is broken.

This person has a very good reason to need this copy. It helps them read what they already bought without further undue hardship. No law is broken.

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Disparition_2022 t1_j5l9xtm wrote

>I would argue that fair use allows for a full "blown up" copy for the sake of a purchaser's eyesight

Where exactly are you getting your definition of "fair use"? I have never seen a definition that allowed one to copy *the entire contents* of a book for any reason. Even if you are copying something for educational purposes, this is limited to a chapter or so. You do realize that schools are entirely educational and have to actually buy the books they use, right? You can't just claim "educational" and copy entire books.

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