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ChickenDragon123 OP t1_j6c9c99 wrote

Okay, In universe you're right. She isn't a murderer, at least not legally. In real world law? I can't think of a juristiction she wouldn't be charged with murder. Ethically, I also think she commited murder. Was that murder justified? I think yes. Pavel Young is the sort of person that I don't want existing. He was a coward, a traitor, a sexual predator, abusive, and a murderer himself.

However, Honor forced the confrontation. No one doubted she was going to kill Pavel if she had the chance. Unless you can find me a sentence where she specifically says she isn't going to kill him, I'm going to say she was going to kill him. He abused her, physically, emotionally and sexually. He killed her fiance, and he evaded justice. She was going to kill him. She intended to kill him. She forced him socially into a position where she could kill him. He wasn't actively trying to kill her at that point. She went after him. Again, I think she was justified somewhat, but she meant to kill him.

The fact he cheated in the duel doesn't make it self defence. If I lure you into an ambush intending to shoot you but you pull the trigger first, I don't get to claim self defence. It doesn't matter how terrible a person you are, I was planning on killing you.

Now, Honor can claim Justice all she wants. To some extent I even believe her. I think she would let the courts have handled it if she had been given the opportunity. But they didn't. She didn't kill Pavel reluctantly. She wanted it. You cannot tell me that vengeance didn't play a role. What do we call a killing that isn't self defence, an accident, or an act of war? Murder.

If I'm on that jury, I'm going for nullification. I'm saying she didn't do it, even though she clearly did. I want her to get away with it. But, I also recognize Honor murdered that dude.

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I-Sort-Glass t1_j6c8f0y wrote

Love his work. Always enjoyed the references to previous events and characters from his other books.

I found that his earlier works, number9dream and Ghostwritten, did a great job of building the momentum almost to breaking point, but then just ended before the storyline had been satisfactorily resolved, leaving you to make up your own mind. He stops doing this so much from Black Swan Green on.

Anyway. Long way of saying I’m a fan.

Easily in the top 2 David Mitchell’s.

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ZealousidealAd4383 t1_j6c75os wrote

Condolences to you. I wish I could say anything more that would be directly helpful.

There’s some great stuff here already but it might be worth a reference to:

“It must be Thursday, thought Arthur. I never could get the hang of Thursdays.”

There’s a few quotes from Adams’ Dirk Gently books that might be good too, depending on what fits:

“He had a tremendous propensity for getting lost when driving. This was largely because of his method of “Zen” navigation, which was simply to find any car that looked as if it knew where it was going and follow it. The results were more often surprising than successful, but he felt it was worth it for the sake of the few occasions when it was both.”

“I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up where I needed to be.”

 -Long Dark Teatime Of The Soul

“...his horoscope had been pretty misleading as well. It had mentioned an unusual amount of planetary activity in his sign and had urged him to differentiate between what he thought he wanted and what he actually needed, and suggested that he should tackle emotional or work problems with determination and complete honesty, but had inexplicably failed to mention that he would be dead before the day was out.”

 - Holistic Detective Agency
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dolphineclipse t1_j6c6hb4 wrote

I always recommend people to listen to the radio series. It's the original version, it's funnier and it has more structure - the first book was essentially an adaptation of the first four episodes of the radio series, and Adams was so behind on his deadline that they just ended the first book mid-story. If you do want closure, the second book does have a proper ending.

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jefrye t1_j6c5ntx wrote

>She also tended to skip over the marriage portion of her marriage plots and ended on the engagement with a quick aside about the wedding

Honestly I think this is the biggest reason: she generally ends her novels pretty abruptly, so it's no surprise that NA is the same. Once the couple gets engaged, the book is basically over.

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leftai2000 t1_j6c5djh wrote

I've been reading the Honorverse and related side branch books for a while now, with varying enjoyment. Not the greatest writer, but they are nicely plotted, and fun to read, although I kind of skip through some of the missile count sections, which feel kind of repetitive to me.

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mell0w_fell0w_ t1_j6c3pqs wrote

hoping i can get some recs before visiting my library tomorrow 🖤 i am honestly not looking for anything too specific! just some books that are hard to put down! i typically read horror, fantasy, sci-fi, etc. but am open to absolutely any genre/suggestions(:

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