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riahtouille t1_j6l5dw6 wrote

I read Verity first and hated it, but she was so hyped and loved that I thought I would try another book of hers. I figured that the smut and cringey writing and horrible, disgusting characters that I couldnt even like were just in that one book of hers, because she was a romance author attempting a thriller. But yeah... I read It Ends With Us and it was somehow WORSE than Verity. The smut is so stupid and pointless, the characters unbelievably cringey and flat, and her writing truly is 2012 wattpad vibes. I dont understand how people can read her books and feel good about them.

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grubas t1_j6l299k wrote

> Eliot’s letters to Hale, who for nearly seventeen years was his confidante, his beloved, and his muse, were another matter. They don’t just repeat “gossip and scandal,” they produce it. Scholars have known about this correspondence since Hale donated Eliot’s letters to Princeton, in 1956, but for decades, the trove of documents remained a tantalizing secret—kept sealed, at Eliot’s insistence, until fifty years after both he and Hale had died.

https://www.newyorker.com/books/page-turner/the-secret-history-of-t-s-eliots-muse

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grubas t1_j6l1zzu wrote

It was very much assumed that any reader would be able to recognize and know his references, at the very least they'd have to go hunting for it.

Plus it's like saying "ahhhh ahhh, Tenacious D ripped off Zeppelin in Tribute"....congratulations you missed the joke.

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-AshWednesday- t1_j6l1tlk wrote

I agree. Reading and writing is significantly harder nowadays because there is no established corpus, hence a lot of literature falls back again to work upon archetypal themes.

But to add to your comment, writing is always based on former writings, and one of the great achievement of modernism is a more conscious awareness of the sources at work in the creative process, seeing the potential this had to exploit it for intertextual purposes.

Elliot greatest achievement is, to put it in your words, creating a conversation, a dialogue, between vastly different sources, to make something wholly new emerge - this is more clear in his latter work, like Four Quartets.

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