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SJ_Barbarian t1_j7l6xnr wrote

>really silly characters like Mr. Collins and Mrs. Bennet, so it doesn’t seem out of place to feel superior to them. But in this passage, it came off as weird.

But that's a point in and of itself - shouldn't it feel weird, even when the person is a bit silly? Respectability has a lot of facets.

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Foxyglove8 t1_j7l2mdb wrote

Yes exactly, particularly when it is being spoken about in a specific context where an observation has been made that other women in that situation behave differently. It doesn't mean that there are no other women like this, just that in a particular context a woman can stand out as different or unique. I often wonder why can't women notice that they stand out in a certain situation? It's just an observation. Likewise I think Elizabeth is merely expressing a thought from observing other women around Darcy and perhaps other men of a similar ilk at the time.

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Wolf-McCarthy t1_j7kzdnc wrote

That's very interesting because CS Lewis is particularly bad at contextualizing and deconstructing his arguments in his non-fiction work and utterly failed to locate the conscious shift in post-war Europe. It goes to show that reading a lot is not enough, reading diverse texts is more important.

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Fragrant_Penalty_ OP t1_j7jb03c wrote

He had correspondence and collaborations with Einstein, Wolfgang Pauli, Marie Von Franz, James Joyce, Alan Watts, priests, monks, the U.S. military and never did someone write about Jung fibbing his knowledge.

Jung’s footnotes on one book reference will sometimes take up multiple pages in order to contextualize why the source material was brought up to begin with.

He also hired people to read and interpret books for him because he knew he couldn’t finish certain books within his lifetime.

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dabamas t1_j7i94bu wrote

I understand why you feel the way you do about Elizabeth's comment. It does come off as a bit superior, but I think it's important to remember that this was written in the 1800s and societal norms were much different than they are today. In that context, her comment can be seen as a sign of how she is trying to prove herself to Darcy and stand out from the other women who were courting him. That being said, I do agree with you that Greta Gerwig's adaptation of Little Women did an excellent job of showing how crafty and determined women of that period could be.

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Ten_Quilts_Deep t1_j7h7fny wrote

I agree that she does not intend to insult Caroline but rather how Austen, throughout the novel, paints Caroline and her cohorts as not being taught to think for themselves as Lizzy has. I would rather say she was not taught but by her parental neglect was allowed to read and think. I was not limiting myself to this one comment. Do you think that was /nyanyaneko2's intent?

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