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pjspin0331 t1_jeff981 wrote

Precisely. It was an action made that circumvented an active MoA, thus also circumventing the main power of a union to collectively bargain for its members. If the mayor can just do what she/he wants, including violating an existing MoA, then that’s the end of public safety unions. What recourse would they have if not the right to collectively bargain?

When you don’t honor an existing MoA and then also refuse to meet to come to a mutual solution, then you are no longer acting in good faith and other means will become necessary. This is the real issue, not the CoViD vaccine mandate.

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Present-Evidence-560 t1_jeff2gc wrote

Reply to comment by popnfrresh in Trillium brewing by popnfrresh

I just know where respect is earned not deserved. Obviously I have a bigger life perspective than you to take other people into consideration. If I were someone who wanted children, I would never ever impose them on other adults like you think is ok to do. Get a baby sitter, if you can’t afford one, you should have reevaluated your life decisions. Fuck, the disrespect and entitlement of people who choose to have children is disgusting. I may be young compared to you but I understand right from wrong at least.

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theliontamer37 t1_jefe7rd wrote

Lmfaooooo what? They absolutely do have a list of vaccines you have to get. That’s how you know which ones are required. I don’t even understand that part of the comment. A flu shot is a flu shot. Covid is not the flu. When you add new health requirements, which an entirely new type of vaccine would fall under, you negotiate. That simple

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downthewell62 t1_jefdcb4 wrote

> Please tell me you realize there’s a difference between existing vaccines, and adding NEW vaccines

Please tell me you realize that you don't have an itemized like of vaccines you agree to vs ones you don't written into a contract, and any time one is added (like a variant of a flu shot), you have to renegotiate the entire union contract, right?

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houligan27 t1_jefdc9n wrote

I'm not talking about vilifying police, Im talking about vilifying unions in general. Of which police make up a small percentage. This thread is about all municipal employees, not just police.

If you bothered to look into the situation more than just commenting on reddit you would understand that the lawsuit wasnt even about the vaccine. It was about whether or not the vaccine could be mandated by the employer without collectively bargaining the change. The irony is that it's far more conservative to enforce a policy like this without collectively bargaining it than it is liberal.

Ultimately, the Courts sided with Mayor Wu. Practically, it makes no difference because the mandate was never enforced due to a previous injunction and a new agreement was made between the two sides. But, police bad for all the updootz you want.

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CheruthCutestory t1_jefd63y wrote

Believe me I know. I used to live in Pittsburgh, which is better off than a lot of former rust belt cities. And did environmental law while there. That's why I said close to Boston not the water although that's the bigger attraction.

But I grew up in Everett and lived there now. I know some people who worked for Wynn during the cleanup. And that area was horrific.

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reaper527 t1_jefcv29 wrote

> It isn't the union's job to do what is right. > > > > It is the union's job to advocate for the rights of the members of the union.

right, just look at the famous teacher's union quote "When school children start paying union dues, that’s when I’ll start representing the interests of children".

of course everyone knows what they REALLY care about is the union leaders rather than the rank and file.

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