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LittleBadWitch t1_j1bsmon wrote
Reply to comment by z06attack in [OC] The Average Cost of Attending College in Each US State by malxredleader
People who don't go to college have to pay for food, transportation, and housing too. They have nothing to do with your education expenses.
If you pay $10-20k~ for food, car, apartment as a non-college student, and you become a college student... you didn't suddenly add another $10-20k in yearly educational expenses for those living expenses.
It's not an educational expense.
Mathias_86 t1_j1bsgtr wrote
Reply to comment by [deleted] in [OC] The Average Cost of Attending College in Each US State by malxredleader
Yes, I understand that and my costs were still nowhere near these numbers
[deleted] t1_j1bsfsd wrote
Reply to comment by z06attack in [OC] The Average Cost of Attending College in Each US State by malxredleader
You would have to pay those expenses whether you were in school or not. They are living expenses, not education expenses.
Ok_Name_291 t1_j1bs7d7 wrote
Reply to comment by hootenanny03 in [OC] The Average Cost of Attending College in Each US State by malxredleader
So this wouldn’t just be cost of attendance. It’s also room and meal plan per year.
[deleted] t1_j1bs4ab wrote
Reply to comment by munchi333 in [OC] The Average Cost of Attending College in Each US State by malxredleader
They added all your living expenses too. It's absurd.
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Reply to comment by Ok_Name_291 in [OC] The Average Cost of Attending College in Each US State by malxredleader
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[deleted] t1_j1brvnc wrote
Reply to comment by Mathias_86 in [OC] The Average Cost of Attending College in Each US State by malxredleader
These aren't tuition costs, they are the cost of everything you need while going to school including your car, housing, etc. It's a ridiculous graph to try and inflate the numbers.
z06attack t1_j1brr3l wrote
Reply to comment by LittleBadWitch in [OC] The Average Cost of Attending College in Each US State by malxredleader
Amd please suggest to me how i would attend a college without those expenses if i didnt live next to that university? It's a necessary expense and therefore rightly included.
[deleted] t1_j1brpzp wrote
Reply to comment by walbrich in [OC] The Average Cost of Attending College in Each US State by malxredleader
The is the cost of everything; housing, food, transportation, etc. Not just tuition.
munchi333 t1_j1brex5 wrote
Reply to comment by walbrich in [OC] The Average Cost of Attending College in Each US State by malxredleader
I graduated in 2019 in the US and it cost about 12k per year. No idea how they came up with these numbers.
LittleBadWitch t1_j1br8rk wrote
Reply to comment by LittleBadWitch in [OC] The Average Cost of Attending College in Each US State by malxredleader
$10k~ WVU/yr
$8.5k~ Marshall/yr
$8k~ WVSU/yr
$5k~ Community College/yr
OP's chart claims $200k~ for a 4-year degree. It's nowhere close to the actual costs associated with education, it's inflated by including normal living expenses and claiming those as education costs.
Food, travel costs (car), housing, etc. aren't educational expenses; they're living expenses that adults have to do regardless of being in school or not. Attributing them to education is absurd.
munchi333 t1_j1br5p5 wrote
Reply to comment by ar243 in [OC] The Average Cost of Attending College in Each US State by malxredleader
People with just a bachelors degree make, on average, $1 million more in lifetime earnings than those without.
[deleted] t1_j1bq4xx wrote
Reply to The Heritage Foundation data sources contradict its report that the US city with the 30th highest rate of homicide was 2.4 / 100K. One of their referenced sources- "CHR&R" (footnote 25) - has more than 1K counties with higher homicide rates. Here's that data. Relevant links are in the comments. [OC] by quantuminous
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walbrich t1_j1bq47s wrote
I went to college in Canada for about 8-9k per year (home province). USA is wild man. It was almost possible to pay for school while working over the summer.
BatangTundo3112 t1_j1bpyls wrote
Getting an education is like healthcare.. Both will fuck you up.
[deleted] t1_j1bpdh3 wrote
Reply to The Heritage Foundation data sources contradict its report that the US city with the 30th highest rate of homicide was 2.4 / 100K. One of their referenced sources- "CHR&R" (footnote 25) - has more than 1K counties with higher homicide rates. Here's that data. Relevant links are in the comments. [OC] by quantuminous
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Mathias_86 t1_j1bpch8 wrote
Reply to comment by [deleted] in [OC] The Average Cost of Attending College in Each US State by malxredleader
I think the private colleges are skewing the data for these states. I graduated from Iowa State in 2020 and my costs were nowhere near what is shown on this map.
LittleBadWitch t1_j1bp2fv wrote
Including room & board + ground transportation into education costs is so irrational. Those aren't educational expenses; they're living expenses.
$26k~ per semester for tuition in WV as an example is absurd to begin with, when Tuition is ~$8-10k per year there at a university and even less for community college. You can get an entire 4-yr college education for less than the price listed on this for one semester.
The cost of education isn't even 20%~ of the costs being claimed here in the most expensive public university case, let alone the cheaper ones.
[deleted] t1_j1bo9ha wrote
OR, IA and VT is surprising. Other dark blue states have Ivy Leagues, non-Ivy high-ranked private schools (e.g. Carnegie Mellon, Northwestern, MIT etc.) and elite liberal art schools.
Roadkill_Bingo t1_j1bnyf1 wrote
Reply to comment by Interesting-Month-56 in [OC] The Average Cost of Attending College in Each US State by malxredleader
Yeah OR being so much more then WA for instance seems weird. Are there just a couple schools jacking up the average?
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mjnuismer t1_j1bmzom wrote
I wanna know what those outlier big blue dots are. Big differences between Audience score and Tomato score.
fredinNH t1_j1bmjwe wrote
This is weird that it combines public and private schools but then breaks it down by in state and out of state. Seems pointless.
[deleted] t1_j1bmbbm wrote
Reply to The Heritage Foundation data sources contradict its report that the US city with the 30th highest rate of homicide was 2.4 / 100K. One of their referenced sources- "CHR&R" (footnote 25) - has more than 1K counties with higher homicide rates. Here's that data. Relevant links are in the comments. [OC] by quantuminous
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munchi333 t1_j1bsthu wrote
Reply to comment by [deleted] in [OC] The Average Cost of Attending College in Each US State by malxredleader
Since it’s not explicit I don’t think it’s fair to show it that way.
And even then, that’s still way more than what I payed going to a state school. So again, I just don’t know where they got this data.