Surprised by Tennessee. I thought they had 2 year free community college that would bring their average down.

Is that new? When I attended college in the 90s, engineering school tuition was more expensive than the college of arts and sciences.

It makes no sense we don’t have college without paying 200K.

This doesn’t include room board and books which are 15K or more a year added on

I have no idea what's happening here, as it seems like sloppy data at first glance, but Title IV implies to me that it's just... all colleges basically? Which means states like Illinois skew far far higher because of the high number of higher cost private schools?

Tuition is the same across degrees at the same college. Ex. Getting a 4 year engineering degree at XYZ university is the same cost as a 4 year business degree from XYZ university.

The library also doesn’t have enough copies for everyone in the classes. I met for classes every day and you had 24 hours to do homework. If you went to the library to use one of the maybe 5 copies of the book, chances are that they’d be in-use and you’d have to wait in a long queue. God save you if you were part of a lecture hall or if there were multiple sessions of the same class.

As an engineering student, I had a number of classes which required a unique code to access the online content and homework. The codes were often over $150 and only gave access for the duration of the course.

There is also an alarming number of professors who write their own books and FORCE you to buy them for their class.

If the federal government's loan system allows it, then why not!

It's a good thing I got rejected by every college I applied to

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IF you didn't know, there are actually more gangs in the deep south than in the north.

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u/carthous I'm still thinking about this so def. want to dig further into it, but for now here's the NBA's official comms used to put the visual together: https://www.nba.com/news/nba-rosters-international-players-2022-23

u/eric5014 I'm going to have to dig into that since it's bugging me now lol but I leveraged the NBA's official comms to put it together: https://www.nba.com/news/nba-rosters-international-players-2022-23

You mean Go Dukes.

I got 2 university degrees and my total debt was $10k

Thanks u/eric5014 - the NBA itself is considered an American league even though one of its teams sits in Canada.

u/carthous Thanks for your reply! The NBA league itself is American. While Toronto is the only team not located in the US, it falls under the umbrella of the NBA which is American.

Thanks! Still insane to me. Of course all my professors promoted their books as well, but I rarely bought them. The newest edition was almost always available at the library.

Colleges estimate cost of books as if you have to buy every book for every class brand new, (some base on the cost of the mandatory books for each class*the cost of the book at the campus book store) That’s not the case, however, some professors/classes do demand brand new text books (for one reason or another) which can cost in the realm of $60-$300 each. Some classes require multiple textbooks. Some degrees have a higher rate of needing brand new text books (such as degrees that require certain program codes that are included in the text book).

You can likely get away for most classes (Atleast undergrad) with used books/PDF versions that are much cheaper.

Campus Fees could be multiple different things, not sure what’s included at UC. I’ve seen other colleges (might be the case here as well) include the cost of Parking passes, campus services (such as a psychologist health clinic) mandatory funds for your campus identification card to be spent on campus. The list could go on and on.

Not everyone has the option to live at home. Living at home while going to school is a privilege; and yes it saves kids money, but you as the parent are still covering their living expense.

There is nothing saying your daughter can’t be a waitress at a local restaurant and live at home too.

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Georgia-my education was highly subsidized. I basically got payed to go to school

Can you please enlighten me what campus fees are? And how are books 1300 bucks? There's libraries. This is so foreign to my European ass.

Exactly, was hoping for pHyR3 to reply but yours will do. And what percentage of the U.S. population is making 100k +? The answer is 5.4% Instead of us bickering and arguing about a topic that involves the top 5.4% of the job market- which duh, yes, a degree at minimum is obviously going to help you throughout your lifetime, let’s get back to the original point of this conversation which has to do with the other 95% of the job market that makes under 6 figures.