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Sheamus_1852 t1_j1q7mhh wrote
Reply to comment by GeorgeDaGreat123 in [OC] Women face greater Imposter Syndrome than Men, when starting Software Engineering Degrees, despite having similar high school averages by GeorgeDaGreat123
Females in general have a high rate of perfectionism, it would stand to reason that they have a higher rate of imposter syndrome. I would assume those with imposter syndrome generally focus on what they missed/failed rather than what was right.
I’d also say this is a relatively skewed data set. Software engineering is a highly male dominated area of study (roughly 16% of software engineering degrees are earned by women). There is probably imposter tendencies from a point of gender bias or a need to prove gender strength. I’d be curious to see the difference if you surveyed a nursing program or early childhood education program. You could probably have a more even gender divide if you did a marketing program.
almost-mushroom t1_j1q7lax wrote
Reply to [OC] Women face greater Imposter Syndrome than Men, when starting Software Engineering Degrees, despite having similar high school averages by GeorgeDaGreat123
This data is not beautiful in this chart because it's hard to read.
Perhaps clustering the bubbles by rounding and make them the size of the cohort.
RelativeAssistant923 t1_j1q7i13 wrote
Reply to comment by GeorgeDaGreat123 in [OC] Women face greater Imposter Syndrome than Men, when starting Software Engineering Degrees, despite having similar high school averages by GeorgeDaGreat123
You provide a standard deviation, but not a p value or anything that reflects statistical significance.
OkPersonality6513 t1_j1q5bzp wrote
Reply to comment by roundhousemb in [OC] Women face greater Imposter Syndrome than Men, when starting Software Engineering Degrees, despite having similar high school averages by GeorgeDaGreat123
Yes and I would be very interested to see statistics for the lower grades too. Do people with lower grade have a self reported lower confidence or not would be a nice information.
CharonsLittleHelper t1_j1q53vi wrote
Reply to comment by Roy4Pris in [OC] State by State Housing Price Growth since 1975 by fred_fotch
Plus in the 70s DC was a scary place to live. So very low baseline.
roundhousemb t1_j1q4qy6 wrote
Reply to [OC] Women face greater Imposter Syndrome than Men, when starting Software Engineering Degrees, despite having similar high school averages by GeorgeDaGreat123
I feel like there's gotta be some bias in only sampling top performing students. If they were freshmen at your university maybe that's what was selected for it but it's odd to me that everyone's highschool average is in the 90s.
epic1107 t1_j1q4jtz wrote
Reply to comment by WoWMHC in [OC] Women face greater Imposter Syndrome than Men, when starting Software Engineering Degrees, despite having similar high school averages by GeorgeDaGreat123
Impostor syndrome is the internal psychological experience of feeling like a phony in some area of your life, despite any success that you have achieved in that area
This is a graph showing people who believe they don't belong (feeling like a phony), despite the success they have achieved (high academic grades).
WoWMHC t1_j1q4d1v wrote
Reply to comment by epic1107 in [OC] Women face greater Imposter Syndrome than Men, when starting Software Engineering Degrees, despite having similar high school averages by GeorgeDaGreat123
Then it’s not imposter syndrome, it’s a lack of confidence. Imposter syndrome is knowing you can do something but feeling like you don’t belong there.
arekniedowiarek t1_j1q40sc wrote
Reply to comment by GeorgeDaGreat123 in [OC] Women face greater Imposter Syndrome than Men, when starting Software Engineering Degrees, despite having similar high school averages by GeorgeDaGreat123
Did you have there an explanation of what an impostor syndrom is?
cartersa87 t1_j1q2cei wrote
Reply to comment by coronaflo in [OC] State by State Housing Price Growth since 1975 by fred_fotch
Which is why I said “relatively”.
cartersa87 t1_j1q2371 wrote
Reply to comment by fred_fotch in [OC] State by State Housing Price Growth since 1975 by fred_fotch
Gotta see the data
FarRelation3062 t1_j1q1k1g wrote
Real estate needs to be put in the basket for 2% inflation targeting. At that rate of growth, a typical US state wouldn’t even be up 100%, yet the lowest growth is around 300% in Mississippi. No wonder people are homeless and destitute.
kaizerdouken t1_j1q12tb wrote
Reply to comment by fred_fotch in [OC] State by State Housing Price Growth since 1975 by fred_fotch
Would be interesting to see change in property taxes between 1975 and today. Blue places tend to pay higher property taxes due to them wanting to give more to others in their communities while red places would rather pay nothing and ask to be left alone in peace, therefore generally pay less in property taxes. Property taxes affect prices as new owners need to adjust prices to compensate higher property taxes.
Itz_Pbear t1_j1q0nmx wrote
Reply to comment by commissarcainrecaff in [OC] Beer as a percentage of total calories by fred_fotch
Not everyone drinks to celebrate or for fun, some are there just for the numbness.
epic1107 t1_j1q07vl wrote
Reply to comment by WoWMHC in [OC] Women face greater Imposter Syndrome than Men, when starting Software Engineering Degrees, despite having similar high school averages by GeorgeDaGreat123
In this setting, imposter syndrome would focus around the students not believing they are smart enough, given the school environment. You are the one being ignorant.
kaizerdouken t1_j1pzvmt wrote
Reply to comment by fred_fotch in [OC] State by State Housing Price Growth since 1975 by fred_fotch
Glad you put the source. 👍🏽
CrushgrooveSC t1_j1pzsfj wrote
Reply to comment by GeorgeDaGreat123 in [OC] Women face greater Imposter Syndrome than Men, when starting Software Engineering Degrees, despite having similar high school averages by GeorgeDaGreat123
Your source methodology doesn’t share how you defined imposter syndrome to the subjective self-diagnosing survey group. Imposter syndrome by definition isn’t really something that you experience if you’re aware that you’re experiencing it.
They are first year college students. One isn’t expected to know anything.
In this circumstance; Identifying that they are extremely weak and need to study a ton and feel ignorant of CS and Programming is not imposter syndrome, it’s just accurate awareness of their current progress.
Your methodology also does not show the subjective, self identifying imposter’s performance against any kind of control group. If, for example, the surveyed persons performed highly relative to people who did NOT self-diagnose with the condition based on whatever your prompt was, then you may have a point. But if, however, they were poorly performing, then they didn’t have imposter syndrome… they are rightly worried and aware of their poor performance.
My criticism would be that this data, as presented, does not tell me anything about imposter syndrome, but rather only the confidence level of some surveyed people in their own performance/aptitude. This by itself is not enough data to assess imposter syndrome.
Their high school GPA feels like an extremely low corollary data point.
kaizerdouken t1_j1pzpzn wrote
Reply to comment by tails99 in [OC] State by State Housing Price Growth since 1975 by fred_fotch
Have you ever taken a course in economy? Just curious.
errdayimshuffln t1_j1pxqkz wrote
Reply to [OC] Women face greater Imposter Syndrome than Men, when starting Software Engineering Degrees, despite having similar high school averages by GeorgeDaGreat123
If I was the only guy in the class, I might feel like I don't belong and thus it makes sense that i would feel like an imposter.
In the large university I went to, the ratio of guys to girls was like 15 to 1.
st4n13l t1_j1pxgk6 wrote
Reply to comment by Baby_ice_cream in [OC] Beer as a percentage of total calories by fred_fotch
>„Das gute Bier“ (The good bear)
I know it's a typo but someone should definitely make a beer called The Good Bear
WoWMHC t1_j1pxg6t wrote
Reply to comment by Pac_Eddy in [OC] Women face greater Imposter Syndrome than Men, when starting Software Engineering Degrees, despite having similar high school averages by GeorgeDaGreat123
Nice one. Enjoy that level of ignorance for the rest of your life. It’ll serve you well.
Thenerdy9 t1_j1pxcde wrote
Reply to comment by GeorgeDaGreat123 in [OC] Women face greater Imposter Syndrome than Men, when starting Software Engineering Degrees, despite having similar high school averages by GeorgeDaGreat123
Is Nm=Nw? I can't tell if you just have more men responders and that's why there is a cluster of men without any women on the chart.
otherwise, I don't know that I can visually see this in the data that is so obvious, I'd love to see some stats.
Looks like imposter syndrome is universally experienced by most, but there is one clear deviation with a cluster of blues that are low.... what do they share? Dod they grow up with more privalege? Have the been working for longer? Do they take advantage of more support services? Are they more extroverted?
Also, would be insightful to include nonbinary. If you're specifically looking at a social gender difference, I theorieze that nonbinary gendered people would feel less imposter syndrome. Though, also nonbinary is multifaceted, so if you had a big enough sample size you could investigate this more.
Pac_Eddy t1_j1pwws5 wrote
Reply to comment by WoWMHC in [OC] Women face greater Imposter Syndrome than Men, when starting Software Engineering Degrees, despite having similar high school averages by GeorgeDaGreat123
Nope.
Have a good day.
rollie82 t1_j1q8hw3 wrote
Reply to comment by GeorgeDaGreat123 in [OC] Women face greater Imposter Syndrome than Men, when starting Software Engineering Degrees, despite having similar high school averages by GeorgeDaGreat123
This seems to suggest that the major itself is meaningful; I'd want to know how this compares to similar studies in other STEM and non-STEM fields. Basically looking at this I ask myself "do female students just profess less confidence than their male counterparts in general?"