Recent comments in /f/dataisbeautiful

GangNailer t1_j294lm2 wrote

Lol "nothing stopping people".

That is the difference between our perspective. There are so many barriers for working class folks to invest in stocks, it makes no sense to trust these whales at the tops to trickle down their wealth to the rest.

What, like the average 401k has like 5dollars of applstock in it.. Lol come-on! Buying back stocks in appl will be a blip for the average investor.

Reagnomics doesn't work, and your idealogy fails to bring in the real dynamics of how the stock market works. Again, buybacks are just another tool that only make a real difference if you area full-time investor with wealth spewing out of your wallet.

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DerVogelMann t1_j294248 wrote

Very beautiful and technically well done.

Though as a joint map AND history nerd I'm obliged to say that with the addition of Myanmar and the exclusion of Sri Lanka, this is actually a map of the old British Raj, not the Indian Subcontinent.

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monkeycomet2 t1_j293gjf wrote

I'm not 100% sure, but a lot of people probably own AAPL as a part of the S&P 500 as an ETF or pensions fund or something. Also they're financial tools that everyone can use. It just so happens that the wealthiest people in society are the ones that use them. I'm not saying that everyone has equal opportunity or access to them, but there's really nothing stopping people from investing outside of a lack of capital which is easily solved using ETFs or even a margin account for the less risk averse.

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GangNailer t1_j292f2z wrote

Right, and your going to put all your trust in investors to keep the stock long-term because of their "genius" iq and "conservative strategies" .

Sorry but I am skeptical af and no longer have any respect nor trust for investors at that level.

I'm tired of giving control of companies and their fate to investors like this. It's about time companies are trated like the real economic engine they should be, jobs, taxes and creating value. Instead of playing with them like financial tools to enrich the already wealthy.

The idea of buy backs is completly benefitting one class of people, and the only way we can finally have fair distribution of wealth is to stop this tactic that only the lucky few are able to benefit from.

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xratedcheese t1_j2915bc wrote

I wonder what percentage of Poles have been conditioned to give the "correct" answer when answering surveys?

Question: "Do you pray every day?"

Suspicious Pole: "Uh... who's asking? I mean, sure! Yeah, I pray every day. That's right. Every day."

Though I suppose a lot of people mutter a little "please God" when they buy a Lotto.

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GangNailer t1_j28zyx6 wrote

Buybacks have no value in this economy except to enrich investors. And that is the issue. Instead of investing back into the company, pay raises for employees etc. It goes straight to the top. It is the number one issue. U r talking about.

Stock buybacks should be illegal... Period.

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Sadoksad t1_j28xngx wrote

Stock buy backs are essentially dividends paid out with out the extra tax that investors have to pay (Tax on the dividend AND Tax on the capital gain compared to just tax on the capital gain). Its also easier to manage than paying out dividends to every single investor. Provided the investor is smart enough to take some of his gains out. The rising prices does provide additional liquidity to the big players. In essence, you the layman with his 401k is only there to get screwed over.

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DragoonXNucleon t1_j28wk15 wrote

Sure, its a negative flow, but think of the implication.

They spent nearly as much buying back stock as they spent running the fucking company. So where did that money go, well it went to shareholders. Ok, so who are shareholders. Well, a lot of us have small amounts but a lot of them have big amounts. Except in a buyback its not the shareholders are given payments in cash. No, instead shares are taken off market, so the singular share goes up in value? Whys it matter? Taxes. If your asset appreciated you don't pay taxes until you sell. If they just did a dividend, you would pay taxes now.

So ultimately this is a company making so much profit they can distributing it to their investors in a tax free way. Yet, their balance statements show a loss.

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