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BroadElderberry t1_j4hnr86 wrote

Reply to comment by tfcallahan1 in How do people across the world spend their time and what does this tell us about living conditions? by kraken_enrager

I think it does. It gives average times spent on certain activities for people aged 15-64 across several countries. As long as you understand what each of the bolded phrases mean and the influence they have on the outcome, it's a very useful and interesting graph.

There's a reason statistics is an entire field. Making assumptions or expecting a graph to say something it isn't is super easy to do.

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lokivpoki23 t1_j4hmf9s wrote

Reply to comment by YouandWhoseArmy in [OC] Top 15 cities with the highest population density by giteam

Funnily enough, I kind of do know what I’m talking about. I’ve only lived in Brooklyn my entire life (outside of the maybe 4 months after I was born, which were spent in Manhattan).

Yes, you can technically address Brooklyn-bound mail to New York, New York as long as the zip code is correct. I could even address an envelope to Fort Lauderdale, NY and as long as the zip code is a Brooklyn one it will get there.

But why make the USPS’s job harder? They tell us to address Brooklyn-bound mail to Brooklyn, NY, and we do. Brooklyn mail is already bad enough, no need to complicate it more.

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UsandoFXOS OP t1_j4hk9po wrote

Reply to comment by InternationalBand494 in [OC] Heavy Metal bands in Spanish-speaking countries · Jan'2023 by UsandoFXOS

https://www.metal-archives.com/lists/AD

  • Among the Mist (Power Metal)
  • De Veneficas Inferi (Black Metal/Ambient)
  • Dilaghran (Black Metal, Dungeon Synth)
  • In Eclipse (Melodic Death/Groove Metal)
  • Nami (Progressive Death Metal)
  • Persefone (Progressive/Melodic Death Metal)

Note: the first one was splitted-up the 5th is "in pause". This directory of metal bands contain all the active and not active bands. 😅

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UsandoFXOS OP t1_j4hj5tx wrote

Reply to comment by metalstats in [OC] Heavy Metal bands in Spanish-speaking countries · Jan'2023 by UsandoFXOS

Well, being talking about SPANISH-speaking countries, most of them prefer a lot salsa, cumbia, merengue, bachata and other "latin rhytms" than "metal music"... So i am not so sure that there is some kind of correlation between "number of metal bands" with other GDP or financial or even development or cultural variables.

I would say that this data simply show us in which countries there are preference to Heavy Metal, compared with other countries in the "spanish-language cultural sphere". Without any other conclusion or interest. Do you not agree with this statement?

Anyway, u/metalstats is right: is very easy to have quite exact stats about metal bands thanks to the incredible free project of https://www.metal-archives.com/ but it is quite difficult to get the same info regarding other musical genres. At least i don't know where to get it.

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UsandoFXOS OP t1_j4hhsze wrote

Reply to comment by Chimpville in [OC] Heavy Metal bands in Spanish-speaking countries · Jan'2023 by UsandoFXOS

Yeahh... good idea! I think that i considered it when deciding how to plot it, but i think that it's not possible in LibreOffice Calc to do a "dot cloud" graph or even a "bubble graph".

This is the reason why i'm learning since a couple of weeks ago to use RStudio 😅 ...to be able ASAP to do more "cool" (appropiate?) graphs. Yeah.

But i appreciate your suggestion: "bubble graph" nobody else has suggested.

Certainly 2 bar is not appropiate, i think so, because both metrics are "not comparable": one is "number of bands" the other one is "bands per capita".

Thanks!

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UsandoFXOS OP t1_j4hg82k wrote

Reply to comment by kerver2 in [OC] Heavy Metal bands in Spanish-speaking countries · Jan'2023 by UsandoFXOS

I completely agree. The color gradient so contrasted (red-black) is the problem and the challenge. Yeah.

I take note. In the future: the gradients must be quite less contrast. In only was thinking in "dark and blood", hahaha, and for this reason i used this "nice" gradient. But you're right that it put it quite more difficult to choose the plot colors!

Thanks! 😊

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UsandoFXOS OP t1_j4hf4eq wrote

Reply to comment by lazyant in [OC] Heavy Metal bands in Spanish-speaking countries · Jan'2023 by UsandoFXOS

Yes, i know: Andorra, in fact, is the unique country in the world which official language is catalan, but also spanish and french, obviously because their geographical position. I perfectly know tha country, i lived for 40 years in Barcelona (2h by car) and i've family living there.

But in the daily day, spanish is equally spoken than catalan, and french in a third place. Anyway, i'm quite sure that ALL (100%) Andorra born citizens (not "imported") speak spanish. Nevertheless, nobody remember to include Andorra as an "spanish-speaking" country.

I've not included them for other statistical graphs, specially international rankings because usually i only consider countries with a one million population. But in this case, the relevant metric was "bands per capita", so it had interest to know that although Andorra has just less than 80k citizens, they have 6 metal bands !! only Metal !! This was a great surprise for me... enough to be included here 😅

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UsandoFXOS OP t1_j4hdrgd wrote

Reply to [OC] Heavy Metal bands in Spanish-speaking countries · Jan'2023 by UsandoFXOS

Hello u/Mental-Ad-40. Good example, the one you put in a comment in this discussion (very very much below, for this reason i put this comment here, above). You remember us that "line graphs" are used not only with "time" in the "x axis", with this good example:

https://i.imgur.com/mhkjW3W.jpg

I'm the author of this published graph of metal bands. Certainly i had never heard about this association with "line graph" and "time". But i recognize that i'm a perfect newbie doing statistical graphs, so i consider a good learning for me all the good comments here 😅

Said this, i appreciate your line chart with temperature-pression, because certainly it's a good counter-argument on that supposed strong link between "line graphs" and "time X axis".

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My unique concern now is how to represent in the future this kind of data without using LINES. I don't like to put 2 bars for each country, because it usually connotes that both bars are corresponding to the same "metric" or same "nature". For example:

bar 1: number of metal bands
bar 2: number of pop bands

But in my case bot metrics are of very **different nature**: they are **not comparable**. One es number of things, and the other is number of things per capita ! Do you understand me?

Someone has any good answer for this kind of data to be rendered in the same graph?

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YouandWhoseArmy t1_j4h98c6 wrote

Reply to comment by lokivpoki23 in [OC] Top 15 cities with the highest population density by giteam

So like the other dude you’re responding to, kinda helpful to know what you’re talking about.

People still colloquially write Brooklyn, NY because Brooklyn was its own city. New York, NY would be right for a Brooklyn address. Brooklyn has a lot more civic stuff because it was in competition with Manhattan. There is a lot of weird stuff cause if the original city status.

Conversely queens was never a city, just a loose amalgamation of towns/villages so many people still address the original towns.

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