Recent comments in /f/dataisbeautiful

leela_martell t1_j5j32ap wrote

If you’re not here for “moral standards” then you’re answering to the wrong person. The poster I replied to and was questioning used terms “humane” and “deserved”, those are inherently terms that comment on the morality of the action, not what its “legal” or otherwise claimed “justification” was.

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canttouchmypingas t1_j5j2mi2 wrote

You replied to someone talking about Crimea, there was a referendum and most of the west doesn't accept it. This is the evidence to my counterclaim that his words are indeed supported by data, people just don't agree with it as they believe it's manipulated:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_Crimean_status_referendum

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leela_martell t1_j5j1md5 wrote

Okay, so after the Russian invasion of Ukraine is over we can deport the entirety of Moscow and St. Petersburg’s populations to the Antarctica as collective punishment and even Russians will think that’s “humane”? Or is collective responsibility something that applies to everyone but Russians?

Of course the ethnic cleansings (speaking more broadly than just Crimean Tatars) started years before WWII. You can Google “great purge” for more information. Many of the deported were kulaks then but “enemy ethnicities” especially Poles but also other people from countries surrounding the USSR both in Europe and Asia, were targeted as well.

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3wteasz t1_j5j10ww wrote

Sorry my man, I am not on a high horse for pointing out that Americans are on one.

Also, you're good at mixing up stuff and twisting words. I first complained about these graphs and about this constant need to point out racial differences and then, after being approached by this other dude with his exceptionalistic argument, said that his exceptionalism, the way they implied that the US society is without flaws, makes it hard for him to see my point. So I don't get your argument..

Edit: also, I hate speaking about "Americans", because my Mexican friends are totally different than the typical US-American we are talking here and I don't want to generalize in that way.

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AdRepresentative5085 t1_j5j0fow wrote

Non-tech can be anything that's not very physical. The only jobs where these discrepancies realistically exist are firefighting, construction, mining and oil rigs.

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What is a "natural role's" requirements in a tech company besides having a brain and mouth? Imposing weird limits like yours sets your company to be in a tough position where you have no one to assume leadership in vacant roles, even if just temporary.

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Varcharlos t1_j5j0dwa wrote

You say that American exceptionalism is an issue, but then proceeded to complain that we expose our racial inequalities. Wouldn’t the latter be an example of the opposite of exceptionalism?

Speaking of which, yeah sure Americans may think they’re the best, but Europeans think they’re better and smarter than Americans. You’re not any better than Americans in the “thinking you’re better” department and you guys smoke too much. So get off your high horse.

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RevolutionaryChip864 t1_j5izmdx wrote

And how would you describe the people of South American origin racially? They have certain characteristics distinguish them from 'whites'? Is Lionel Messi white or 'hispanic'? Is Del Potro white or hispanic? Rodrigo Santoro looks like an everyday guy from south France or Florense. You just couldn't tell. Would you categorize him as 'hispanic' in a workplace or white? Would you use some kind a color measurement? This racial systematization is extremely racist in my eyes, and also doesn't make any sense logically.

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