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attaboyyy t1_iykdsv0 wrote

You're reading the chart correctly for revenue but misinterpreting that revenue is not net-income. Twitter loses an average of $500M a year after all that revenue+costs which only makes his 44B purchase all the more perplexing. He far overpaid for a historically money losing venture, and sure if he can start to make it profitable, which happened twice in twit-history for an at best $1.5B that year .. that's a long 30yr/break even

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devilbunny t1_iyjne6i wrote

Many years ago, I read - though I have no way of checking up on this - that the net profit of the airline industry as a whole since its inception was basically zero. It pays the expenses, the people who work there, and not much else.

Delta, at least in my experience, is worlds better than the alternatives domestically. But that depends on where exactly you fly from and to.

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risenphoenixkai t1_iyjmqm6 wrote

Unless I’m reading this chart wrong, then even if Twitter retains its current user base and ARPU, it will take over 12.5 years for it to have accumulated revenue in excess of its $44 billion purchase price.

With users and advertisers bailing on the platform in not insignificant numbers, that 12.5 years is only going to get a lot longer without some kind of positive changes.

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NinjaLanternShark t1_iyj48eg wrote

I'm frequently surprised at how influential Twitter is despite a relatively small user base. You rarely hear anything about Pinterest in the news despite having close to double the user base.

Maybe the world would be better off if politicians and pundits had to express themselves through Pinterest boards instead of tweets :P

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jtsg_ OP t1_iyj0nbd wrote

Few things stand out for me from the above chart:

  1. Despite its very large user base, Meta is miles ahead of competition in monetizing its user base. Its ARPU is almost 2x that of Twitter and 3x that of Snapchat.
  2. Twitter’s ARPU growth has stagnated over the last 3.5 years and has started to decline in recent quarters. The turmoil over at Twitter post Musk’s takeover will not make this any easier.
  3. Snapchat and Pinterest has a lot of catching up to do. Their ARPU is growing way too slowly for their liking.

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herbys t1_iyis8nj wrote

I'm pretty sure this is not even close to accurate. $131M a quarter in aircraft rent? That's enough to rent about fifty large airliners, a small fraction of their fleet.

Aircraft rent or ownership is usually about one fourth of an airline operating cost. It's one precent in this chat, which of obviously WAY off.

Edit: I fixed a typo in my original reply, not I see in their actual finance disclosure that this chart missed aircraft acquisitions for $1B, which is not a small sum.

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