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SE_SHO_hw t1_iyyued4 wrote
Reply to comment by Malvania in [OC] Building permits (in housing units) per capita, by state (fix) by born_in_cyberspace
There is plenty of space for housing, both in the city and the wider state. Hell, you can get lots more housing in Manhattan! The population of Manhattan actually peaked around 1900-1910, before we could build nearly as vertically as we can today.
JimBeam823 t1_iyyt0vh wrote
This is the real reason why people are moving to Texas, Florida, and the Carolinas. Not some Culture War bullshit.
Torker t1_iyyreab wrote
Reply to comment by fail-deadly- in [OC] Building permits (in housing units) per capita, by state (fix) by born_in_cyberspace
Many people check the price of homes before moving states. I check housing prices in California, would move there if they built more houses. Of course the rust belt is different story.
Cassak5111 t1_iyyqxew wrote
Reply to comment by New2ThisThrowaway in [OC] Building permits (in housing units) per capita, by state (fix) by born_in_cyberspace
That's not helpful information though. My point is if the housing starts are prohibited by zoning laws, they are not going to show up as rejected because no builder would apply in the first place.
imnotsoho t1_iyypu5q wrote
Reply to comment by DazedWithCoffee in [OC] Building permits (in housing units) per capita, by state (fix) by born_in_cyberspace
There are houses being built all over the Sacramento area. One of the more affordable urban areas of the state. Also lots of apartments.
cichlidassassin t1_iyyplsj wrote
Reply to comment by guy999 in [OC] Building permits (in housing units) per capita, by state (fix) by born_in_cyberspace
*Tons of demand in specific areas
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Reply to comment by New2ThisThrowaway in [OC] Building permits (in housing units) per capita, by state (fix) by born_in_cyberspace
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New2ThisThrowaway t1_iyyo17j wrote
Reply to comment by jamkoch in [OC] Building permits (in housing units) per capita, by state (fix) by born_in_cyberspace
I was thinking the same thing. But this data is for new units. The number of homes completely destroyed by hurricanes is relative low compared to these numbers. Most homes are damaged, not destroyed.
I couldn't find exact stats, but it looks like fewer than 10,000 homes destroyed by hurricanes in FL this year. That's .00046 per capita. Not negligible, but also probably wouldn't change these numbers much.
Aaron_Hamm t1_iyyndb1 wrote
Reply to comment by Yank_of_Jamin in [OC] Building permits (in housing units) per capita, by state (fix) by born_in_cyberspace
But if you move away, and everyone else is generally, housing doesn't get built because it's not needed...
New2ThisThrowaway t1_iyymer1 wrote
Reply to comment by corgis_are_awesome in [OC] Building permits (in housing units) per capita, by state (fix) by born_in_cyberspace
Well, they could. Just not in the desirable locations that are already populated. Any new units in those areas are multi-story buildings and not represented in this visualization.
New2ThisThrowaway t1_iyyliy9 wrote
Reply to comment by Cassak5111 in [OC] Building permits (in housing units) per capita, by state (fix) by born_in_cyberspace
It would show how many permits are approved vs. rejected. The editorialized comment "Not in My State!" seems to imply an indication of rejection. But that's not the data being shown.
mtcwby t1_iyylfl6 wrote
Reply to comment by corgis_are_awesome in [OC] Building permits (in housing units) per capita, by state (fix) by born_in_cyberspace
Because the cost of doing so doesn't meet the affordability of those who need houses. The cost to build is through the roof in the SF bay area. Even if it's approved and zoned for it. Developers don't put out that much money to lose money. At least not more than once.
mtcwby t1_iyyl5i6 wrote
Reply to comment by guy999 in [OC] Building permits (in housing units) per capita, by state (fix) by born_in_cyberspace
California through code, permits, labor and utility hookups has added an enormous bill onto new houses in the most populated areas. Demand suffers when the basic cost of building goes over 800K.
Late_Advice_9793 t1_iyyk805 wrote
Reply to comment by Yank_of_Jamin in [OC] Building permits (in housing units) per capita, by state (fix) by born_in_cyberspace
Where did you move
Doover__ t1_iyyjv1t wrote
Reply to comment by Traditional-Let7900 in [OC] Building permits (in housing units) per capita, by state (fix) by born_in_cyberspace
ah yes, famously crime infested New England, yup murder capitol of the world here in Boston
REO_Studwagon t1_iyyis4y wrote
Reply to comment by DazedWithCoffee in [OC] Building permits (in housing units) per capita, by state (fix) by born_in_cyberspace
Uh, that’s our main clients and we’re very busy. Tens of thousands of new units going in around my town.
[deleted] t1_iyyipxu wrote
Reply to comment by justbill55 in Which Populations Feel Their Country is on the Wrong Track by RakAwasXxX
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Cassak5111 t1_iyyhnuo wrote
Reply to comment by Jaded_Prompt_15 in [OC] Building permits (in housing units) per capita, by state (fix) by born_in_cyberspace
What sense does "per application" make?
It's not an indicator of the permissivity of housing starts because for the most part zoning rules are well-known and you're simply not going to apply if you know you're not going to be approved.
jeremiah1142 t1_iyygq24 wrote
Unit of measure is bad. When everything is 0.00XX…. Dude….
zoinkability t1_iyyfhyu wrote
Reply to comment by fail-deadly- in [OC] Building permits (in housing units) per capita, by state (fix) by born_in_cyberspace
B-b-b-but the post title "More houses are being built in states with growing populations" wouldn't be clickbaity or try to push my political agenda!
Yank_of_Jamin t1_iyyfar9 wrote
Reply to comment by Malvania in [OC] Building permits (in housing units) per capita, by state (fix) by born_in_cyberspace
Sure, myself being one of those that left. I’m just saying it’s reasonable to assume more new houses are being built where there’s space for them than in the city where as you said earlier, there is no space.
Malvania t1_iyyf1ju wrote
Reply to comment by Yank_of_Jamin in [OC] Building permits (in housing units) per capita, by state (fix) by born_in_cyberspace
That would be the parts of the state that are having people move away.
B0ge t1_iyyeksj wrote
Reply to comment by Toes14 in Which Populations Feel Their Country is on the Wrong Track by RakAwasXxX
I think Finland would be more positive
Yank_of_Jamin t1_iyyeix1 wrote
Reply to comment by Malvania in [OC] Building permits (in housing units) per capita, by state (fix) by born_in_cyberspace
New York is more than just the city, there’s more space for new houses than you might think.
crooked-v t1_iyyz91g wrote
Reply to comment by calguy1955 in [OC] Building permits (in housing units) per capita, by state (fix) by born_in_cyberspace
>It seems I’m always seeing comments and statistics about how people are fleeing California for Texas. Maybe that’s why there aren’t as many houses being built.
You've got the cause and effect reversed there. People have been leaving California in droves because housing there is wildly, insanely expensive.