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DeTrotseTuinkabouter t1_izfsans wrote
Reply to comment by realzequel in [OC] How to spot misleading charts? I would like to hear your opinion on the subject, also any tips design-wise? by dark_o3
Definitely! Especially with mixed charts (bar and line) or two different units (e.g. price and quantity).
But they're not terribly common.
deilk t1_izfs42v wrote
Reply to Where Canadians Live. It’s incredible to see that the population is so concentrated in a country so big. by Wastheretoday
And Canada hasn't a small population. Its just not big compared to its size.
FatalTragedy t1_izfs1sc wrote
Reply to comment by AdAcrobatic7236 in Sex composition of baby names in the USA and England/Wales: 2021 [OC] by pncohen
I never claimed I was or was not the subject of your comment, nor was I clarifying what the subject of your comment was.
DeTrotseTuinkabouter t1_izfrea6 wrote
Reply to comment by [deleted] in [OC] How to spot misleading charts? I would like to hear your opinion on the subject, also any tips design-wise? by dark_o3
That's not misleading, just wrong.
1BannedAgain t1_izfrcsp wrote
Reply to [OC] How to spot misleading charts? I would like to hear your opinion on the subject, also any tips design-wise? by dark_o3
Fox News has posted some infamous bar graphs
chemolz9 t1_izfral0 wrote
Reply to comment by mkaszycki81 in Change in electricity produced by renewables per continent 2012-2022 [OC] by hcrx
You are right.
wonder_bear t1_izfqzv2 wrote
Reply to comment by rajimoto in [OC] How to spot misleading charts? I would like to hear your opinion on the subject, also any tips design-wise? by dark_o3
A lot of times I see people manipulating results to align with what leaders want in an effort to look good.
cleaning_my_room_ t1_izfqt1t wrote
Reply to Great article using data to show the rise in Covid misinformation on Twitter. If there was no groundswell of coordinated misinfo on Twitter, this chart would be full of disconnected dots. Data and graphs supplied by Timothy Graham of the Queensland University of Technology by pedrointas
It is full of disconnected dots.
mkaszycki81 t1_izfqpqm wrote
Shame on South America for not achieving anything in ten years!
/s
lawschoolquestion34 t1_izfqmjc wrote
Reply to comment by finite2 in [OC] Largest IPOs in history by giteam
Those rights aren’t typical for the Fortune 500. Usually found in public former startups like Facebook with powerful founders or investors-turned-owners. Certain rights associated with preferred stock etc. certainly exists but what you’ll see with voting power at Facebook is far and away the exception to the rule.
mkaszycki81 t1_izfqlst wrote
Reply to comment by chemolz9 in Change in electricity produced by renewables per continent 2012-2022 [OC] by hcrx
>For example, if Europe has 21% renewables in 2010 and 48% renewables in 2020, that's a difference of 27 percentage points and an increase of 229 percent.
2020 is 229% of 2010, which is an increase of 129%.
Series_G t1_izfqfw1 wrote
Reply to [OC] How to spot misleading charts? I would like to hear your opinion on the subject, also any tips design-wise? by dark_o3
I like it.. informative and helpful.
TankSparkle t1_izfpdx6 wrote
Reply to [OC] Largest IPOs in history by giteam
and they are all way less than what Elon Musk paid for Twitter
dark_o3 OP t1_izfpdjr wrote
Reply to comment by MrMitchWeaver in [OC] How to spot misleading charts? I would like to hear your opinion on the subject, also any tips design-wise? by dark_o3
I made a seperate comment explaining the idea of the infographic, and yes sometimes it is OK to do it but
#1 is for me the most common way people lie and its not ok in majority of cases.
#2 I would say its only ok for correlation but even here it can mislead users.
#3 maybe there is a better example, the idea is that users should know the full story.
DRE_CFab t1_izfpc4s wrote
Reply to [OC] How to spot misleading charts? I would like to hear your opinion on the subject, also any tips design-wise? by dark_o3
I remember when I did debate as a freshman in high school and hated it because it was all about doing exactly this, as well as censoring lines from documents that didn't agree with your stance and using them. And then when you actually got to debating it was just who could say "nope that's wrong" more convincingly (read: louder and more angrily). Little did I know that's what the world is like
AdAcrobatic7236 t1_izfpak8 wrote
Reply to comment by FatalTragedy in Sex composition of baby names in the USA and England/Wales: 2021 [OC] by pncohen
🔥Thank you for clarifying that you were not the subject of my comment…
[deleted] t1_izfp9fv wrote
underlander t1_izfoog6 wrote
Reply to [OC] How to spot misleading charts? I would like to hear your opinion on the subject, also any tips design-wise? by dark_o3
This isn’t a data visualization, it’s an infographic. There’s no data here.
dark_o3 OP t1_izfoeja wrote
Reply to [OC] How to spot misleading charts? I would like to hear your opinion on the subject, also any tips design-wise? by dark_o3
The purpose of the infographic is to show some common examples on how charts can be misleading and on what should readers pay attention to.
Yes, there are cases where this is appropriate but more commonly it is just bad design OR (and this is my main point I want to address) sometimes charts are designed like this on purpose in order to mislead users deliberately.
Common population does not possess statistical literacy to read and interpret numbers accurately. Politicians, for example, love to abuse that by showing charts like these. I wanted to present how they commonly do it.
realzequel t1_izfoddp wrote
Reply to [OC] How to spot misleading charts? I would like to hear your opinion on the subject, also any tips design-wise? by dark_o3
I've seen a lot of charts in my time but never seen a double y-axis. Is that a thing?
TrueBirch OP t1_izfnruv wrote
Reply to comment by ScaryFoal558760 in Swans: The ultimate gift from your true love [OC] by TrueBirch
Good point, PNC should add that expense
Golden_Mandala t1_izfnqdt wrote
Reply to [OC] How to spot misleading charts? I would like to hear your opinion on the subject, also any tips design-wise? by dark_o3
This is so important. A lot of these things are only problematic because most normal people don’t know how to read graphs. But some are bad for all audiences.
One I have seen occasionally that truly shocks me is non-linear labeling of numbers on an axis—for example, 2, 4, 8, 10, 14, 16, 20. With equal space between each given number.
rajimoto t1_izfncwq wrote
Reply to [OC] How to spot misleading charts? I would like to hear your opinion on the subject, also any tips design-wise? by dark_o3
Who benefits from the analysis and the persuasion presented?
What data are omitted?
Those are the most important questions to answer first. With those ideas in mind, the obvious flaws in the presentation are glaring.
MountainHigh31 t1_izfmr6u wrote
Reply to comment by _JohnJacob in Where Canadians Live. It’s incredible to see that the population is so concentrated in a country so big. by Wastheretoday
Drumbo trashed me!!
farsh19 t1_izfswa7 wrote
Reply to comment by dark_o3 in [OC] How to spot misleading charts? I would like to hear your opinion on the subject, also any tips design-wise? by dark_o3
I agree with both points, depending on the context; although, I would caution against phrases like, "majority of cases" unless you have the data to support such a claim.
These are responsible rules for graphs aimed towards the general public. However these are not good rules to follow in, for example, scientific literature. Hence, the context and intent of a graph is also important.