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rajimoto t1_izfz1ji wrote
Reply to comment by wonder_bear in [OC] How to spot misleading charts? I would like to hear your opinion on the subject, also any tips design-wise? by dark_o3
You don't even need to manipulate the results.
The visualization is a selective presentation of a dataset.
It's trivial to spin a narrative with a slice of a dataset, and once you see how easy it is, you can't unsee it.
frollard t1_izfyy5v wrote
Reply to comment by rajimoto in [OC] How to spot misleading charts? I would like to hear your opinion on the subject, also any tips design-wise? by dark_o3
In conjunction with what are omitted // all steps in generating the data; particularly if formulaic. Several functions crush or expand domain and range in misleading (sometimes useful) ways.
ahtemsah t1_izfynhc wrote
Reply to [OC] How to spot misleading charts? I would like to hear your opinion on the subject, also any tips design-wise? by dark_o3
on point 2 : I'd like to point out that the 2 axes of Y do not have to be the same thing or share the same unit. Hence their values and zero points may not necessarily align. That is to say, there are genuine charts that look like the 2nd on the left. The requirement is that a point need only satisfy (x,y1) and (x, y2) together but that doesn't mean the point has to satisfy (y1,y2) as well. You can find lots of charts like this in experimental research (especially engineering) where an author may condense multiple experiments onto a single graph for comparison, or compare between more than 2 discreet variables.
bruff9 t1_izfye8o wrote
Reply to comment by MrMitchWeaver in [OC] How to spot misleading charts? I would like to hear your opinion on the subject, also any tips design-wise? by dark_o3
I have an issue with 3. It very much depends on the data set and what is actually being portrayed/the context. Who is to say that 6 years is enough vs 2? We need to know a lot more in order to say xyz is bad because it’s 3 years.
auricularisposterior t1_izfy06o wrote
Reply to comment by Muscled_Daddy in [OC] Largest IPOs in history by giteam
It would be nice if it also compared IPOs to the current market capitalization.
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Reply to comment by Thundorius in [OC] How to spot misleading charts? I would like to hear your opinion on the subject, also any tips design-wise? by dark_o3
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RunningJay t1_izfx7nc wrote
Reply to comment by RebelLemurs in [OC] Largest IPOs in history by giteam
Yeah, the heading makes no sense.
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It is investment raised, which is a weird metric; as you say, the market cap is a much more well-known and probably more interesting metric.
imapassenger1 t1_izfx0d5 wrote
Reply to comment by 1BannedAgain in [OC] How to spot misleading charts? I would like to hear your opinion on the subject, also any tips design-wise? by dark_o3
And pie charts.
Thundorius t1_izfwtiq wrote
Reply to comment by AtLukesDiner in [OC] How to spot misleading charts? I would like to hear your opinion on the subject, also any tips design-wise? by dark_o3
Don’t you raise your voice at me.
Thundorius t1_izfwo9z wrote
Reply to comment by spiral8888 in [OC] How to spot misleading charts? I would like to hear your opinion on the subject, also any tips design-wise? by dark_o3
Criminally negligent or just criminal.
notkevinjohn t1_izfwnch wrote
Reply to [OC] How to spot misleading charts? I would like to hear your opinion on the subject, also any tips design-wise? by dark_o3
I think the effort here is generally misguided. I don't think you can make a list of fast and easy rules for determining graphs that are intentionally misleading you versus ones that are trying to accurately inform you. There are perfectly valid reasons to do all the things in this list, and you really have to have a deeper understanding of the data and the context to be able to look back and see if something is misleading. It would be like trying to come up with a list of 'misleading phrases' in English and telling people to watch for those red flags, without a deeper knowledge of the conversation and context, that probably wouldn't work.
RoosterImportant4283 t1_izfwi0e wrote
Reply to comment by AtLukesDiner in [OC] How to spot misleading charts? I would like to hear your opinion on the subject, also any tips design-wise? by dark_o3
you mean to make it real big like that?
notkevinjohn t1_izfvunk wrote
Reply to [OC] How to spot misleading charts? I would like to hear your opinion on the subject, also any tips design-wise? by dark_o3
I dislike example 2. There are many valid reasons to have multiple axis on a graph, and this might make people think that it's a shady practice. There is also no reason to have the second axis in the example given, since the 'accurate' version ends up scaling them together.
AdAcrobatic7236 t1_izfvhdd wrote
Reply to comment by FatalTragedy in Sex composition of baby names in the USA and England/Wales: 2021 [OC] by pncohen
🔥 Thank you for clarifying your thoughts…
ConsciousWhirlpool t1_izfv28i wrote
Reply to comment by statisticalanalysis_ in Protest movements as deadly as Iran’s often end in revolution or civil war by statisticalanalysis_
Doesn’t work, says gift code expired.
spiral8888 t1_izfurx3 wrote
Reply to comment by MrMitchWeaver in [OC] How to spot misleading charts? I would like to hear your opinion on the subject, also any tips design-wise? by dark_o3
- As someone commented. If you make the Y-axis such that the left one is 10% of the top and the right one 90%, you can make any change, big or small look exactly the same on the graph. In those cases the conveys zero information. You might as well give the values as numbers.
The only situations where it could make sense to suppress the zero are those where the absolute value of the plotted thing has no meaning, such as air temperature. So,.most likely you would never want to plot air temperatures starting from 0K. In most cases the absolute values have meaning, which is why the suppression of the zero just misleads the reader.
LakeSun t1_izfumm3 wrote
Reply to comment by toshgiles in [OC] Guns in the US and Canada by pigecoin69420
LOL. No I don't have any weed to give you.
The "Devil's Lettuce", that's funny too.
TrueBirch OP t1_izfuaid wrote
Reply to comment by vleester in Swans: The ultimate gift from your true love [OC] by TrueBirch
I actually agree with you. I was going for a Christmas theme and it really didn't work out. Normally I'm very restrained in my use of color, and I think I'll go back to that aesthetic.
I also looked at it on my phone after making the post and realized it's hard to read on mobile. I could have dropped the on-bar labels without losing any data, and I could have made it narrower and longer for mobile-friendliness.
ImCaffeinated_Chris t1_izfu7p5 wrote
Reply to comment by ns_dev in [OC] Largest IPOs in history by giteam
This just feels so damn shady
spiral8888 t1_izfti8d wrote
Reply to comment by AbouBenAdhem in [OC] How to spot misleading charts? I would like to hear your opinion on the subject, also any tips design-wise? by dark_o3
I'd say you're almost right. The graph would still tell if A bigger than B or B is bigger than A. By juggling the Y-axis you can't hide this.
vleester t1_izft8gy wrote
I like the idea but this is unpleasant to look at.
The amount of Red and Green is a bit much.
I think this is one red/green chart where being colourblind might be advantageous.
The labels being all over the place.
Labels hiding the data!
Axis repeating the title.
KittyTerror t1_izft2hf wrote
Reply to comment by zxsw85 in [OC] Largest IPOs in history by giteam
You’re*
spiral8888 t1_izfsxmw wrote
Reply to comment by IONIXU22 in [OC] How to spot misleading charts? I would like to hear your opinion on the subject, also any tips design-wise? by dark_o3
The problem is that in some plotting programs that's the default. That's why it's hard to know if the journalist presenting the graph is deliberately trying to mislead or is just incompetent and doesn't understand that if he/she doesn't tell the plotting program not to suppress zero, the graph will be misleading.
Wizard01475 t1_izfzddw wrote
Reply to [OC] Largest IPOs in history by giteam
They should be adjusted for inflation