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zestyping t1_izg5v96 wrote
Reply to [OC] How to spot misleading charts? I would like to hear your opinion on the subject, also any tips design-wise? by dark_o3
This recent r/dataisbeautiful post is an excellent example of misleading data visualization:
See this comment for explanation:
shmerham t1_izg5udz wrote
Reply to comment by dark_o3 in [OC] How to spot misleading charts? I would like to hear your opinion on the subject, also any tips design-wise? by dark_o3
I’m not sure I’d agree that 1 is not ok in most instances. It’s okay if you’re comparing values against a reference, particularly if you’re trying to show outliers.
Take, for example, 100 meter dash times. There’s a huge difference between 10.0 and 9.9 seconds (a body length). …and if you’re trying to compare Usain Bolt’s record against the other fastest times, you would need to truncate the axis to see that his fastest stands out against the next 9 fastest runners which are clustered together.
There just one example but there’s plenty of others.
JoHeWe t1_izg5d0v wrote
Reply to Protest movements as deadly as Iran’s often end in revolution or civil war by statisticalanalysis_
What I read in Dutch news papers is that research has shown that mass movements likely result in revolution. However, with social media, it is easier to create a large following. Sadly, this following is also more fleeing, especially since these uprisings lack a leader or other organisational attributes.
notkevinjohn t1_izg4zbw wrote
Reply to comment by dark_o3 in [OC] How to spot misleading charts? I would like to hear your opinion on the subject, also any tips design-wise? by dark_o3
Because that analogy just doesn't map to the situation here. There aren't certain plotting/graphing practices that are more likely to be associated with misleading data then they are with accurate data (except maybe not putting labels on your axis). You are making the assumption that if you see plots that do this, they are more likely to be misleading than accurate, but I don't think the data support that claim. I do everything on this list all the time in my job as an engineer, and I am doing it because it's the most accurate way to answer the questions that my data were collected to answer.
AtLukesDiner t1_izg4qby wrote
Reply to comment by RoosterImportant4283 in [OC] How to spot misleading charts? I would like to hear your opinion on the subject, also any tips design-wise? by dark_o3
I mean there's nothing to the left of the bars specifying the unit and scale... Is it percentage points? 0-100 or 0-10? We have no clue. It ties into the first point noting how important the scale is to putting the data in context.
EDIT: I also have no idea how I made the text large but I have been watching a 6 day old baby since 4am and cannot be held responsible 😂
JoHeWe t1_izg4qb3 wrote
Reply to comment by IONIXU22 in [OC] How to spot misleading charts? I would like to hear your opinion on the subject, also any tips design-wise? by dark_o3
There are instances where starting the Y-axis not at zero is okay. I'm bad at examples, but zero is used as a baseline. Which means that it would be better to start the Y-axis at another value, it being similar to the baseline.
An example might be the concentration of something, like CO2 molecules in the atmosphere. It is impossible and irrelevant to get to 0. Besides, it's not about the absolute values but the relative values.
But in general, yeah, it is misleading.
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ButterflyCatastrophe t1_izg3ule wrote
Reply to comment by thebasementcakes in [OC] USA Median Listing Price for Homes by County, Percent Change, November 2021 to 2022, Realtor.com Residential Listings Database by michigician
Certainly helps explain why there are so many +50% counties right next to -20% counties.
dark_o3 OP t1_izg2w9t wrote
Reply to comment by notkevinjohn in [OC] How to spot misleading charts? I would like to hear your opinion on the subject, also any tips design-wise? by dark_o3
If I travel to another country, I would like to know about common tourist scams, so if for example someone wants to sell me a bracelet on the street, I will be extra careful with the purchase. I’ll approach carefully, ask questions, evaluate situation, etc. Why cant we apply same principle here?
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Reply to comment by IONIXU22 in [OC] How to spot misleading charts? I would like to hear your opinion on the subject, also any tips design-wise? by dark_o3
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navywater t1_izg2bh9 wrote
Reply to comment by hexe86 in Swans: The ultimate gift from your true love [OC] by TrueBirch
Bruh it’s not a voucher to go see some people milking cows somewhere. You have to transport 40 women cows and buckets to your house in order to present them as a gift. That means a bus for the maids, trucks for the cows, and a serious amount of planning.
haisufu t1_izg1n93 wrote
Reply to [OC] How to spot misleading charts? I would like to hear your opinion on the subject, also any tips design-wise? by dark_o3
for the accurate chart in point 2, is the Y-axis not evenly spaced out? the gap between 60 and 80 seems much smaller than 20 and 40, even though they're the same increment of 20%
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Reply to comment by JanitorKarl in Swans: The ultimate gift from your true love [OC] by TrueBirch
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Matrozi t1_izg1d4l wrote
Reply to comment by IONIXU22 in [OC] How to spot misleading charts? I would like to hear your opinion on the subject, also any tips design-wise? by dark_o3
You see it a lot on scientific papers, it was more common before but you do still have a few papers that come out with a badly scaled Y axis to insist on the difference between group A and group B.
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All_Usernames_Tooken t1_izg1auh wrote
Reply to [OC] Largest IPOs in history by giteam
Almost all of them scams or involved in defrauding people.
scrambledeggs42 t1_izg18w2 wrote
Reply to comment by Affectionate-Sand725 in [OC] Lichess.org traffic during Football World Cup 2022 [UPDATED] by somethingpretentious
Is this ChatGPT?
bosschucker t1_izg17rg wrote
Reply to comment by MrMitchWeaver in [OC] How to spot misleading charts? I would like to hear your opinion on the subject, also any tips design-wise? by dark_o3
I have to disagree with #2. I'm a fan of this blog post by datawrapper, which features this graphic (and has more arguments against dual axis charts besides being misleading). you can manipulate the axes to show literally any correlation that you want, which is a pretty fatal flaw imo for any data visualization
Sines314 t1_izg0ojz wrote
Reply to comment by spiral8888 in [OC] How to spot misleading charts? I would like to hear your opinion on the subject, also any tips design-wise? by dark_o3
Journalists should know this, it’s not complicated. Assume intent to mislead. Or that they’re too dumb to be doing their job.
dark_o3 OP t1_izg0jzo wrote
Reply to comment by Golden_Mandala in [OC] How to spot misleading charts? I would like to hear your opinion on the subject, also any tips design-wise? by dark_o3
Exactly, there are many examples on how they do it. People should be aware of this.
hexe86 t1_izg03xy wrote
Reply to comment by navywater in Swans: The ultimate gift from your true love [OC] by TrueBirch
Slave wages
GMN123 t1_izfzp3a wrote
Reply to comment by RebelLemurs in [OC] Largest IPOs in history by giteam
Thank you for saying this. I was thinking have these companies gone up THAT much in just a few years?
Splarnst t1_izfznyw wrote
Reply to comment by tirednervousbroke in Sex composition of baby names in the USA and England/Wales: 2021 [OC] by pncohen
It’s a Spanish name, so usually people of Hispanic descent.
It means “daisy.” The drink is also named after the flower.
GMN123 t1_izfzfwo wrote
Reply to comment by mcduff13 in [OC] Largest IPOs in history by giteam
Based on the constant Aramco ads I'm being bombarded with, I think they're trying to change that.
dark_o3 OP t1_izg6aaj wrote
Reply to comment by notkevinjohn in [OC] How to spot misleading charts? I would like to hear your opinion on the subject, also any tips design-wise? by dark_o3
There are number of common practices which are used to mislead on purpose. The point is to show main tricks they use and to educate users to critically think about data thats presented to them.