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somethingrandom261 t1_izgd3ag wrote
Reply to [OC] How to spot misleading charts? I would like to hear your opinion on the subject, also any tips design-wise? by dark_o3
These aren’t necessarily misleading, they’re focused, and they tell a story. For example with the first, unless if you squint at the labels you might not even be able to tell if there was an increase. For the second, yea idk. The third I’d assume that you’d be wanting to look at things after a major break. The most common I’ve seen is, yes, Covid happened and it hurt. We don’t need every chart to show how much worse off we are, we want to see how recovery is progressing. As with everything, you’ve gotta use some critical thinking to see if it’s being being misleading, or if it’s adjusted for clarity.
Westcork1916 t1_izgd05x wrote
Reply to [OC] How to spot misleading charts? I would like to hear your opinion on the subject, also any tips design-wise? by dark_o3
You can also increase the maximum value of the Y Axis to make a big difference seem smaller than it really is.
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Reply to comment by spiral8888 in [OC] How to spot misleading charts? I would like to hear your opinion on the subject, also any tips design-wise? by dark_o3
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Skulltown_Jelly t1_izgcsff wrote
Reply to comment by IONIXU22 in [OC] How to spot misleading charts? I would like to hear your opinion on the subject, also any tips design-wise? by dark_o3
By wrongly scaled you mean starting with a value different than zero? Because they are very different things
mightbeacat1 t1_izgc5wu wrote
Reply to comment by mrber008 in Swans: The ultimate gift from your true love [OC] by TrueBirch
Right? I understand that the red and green is festive, but my poor eyeballs.
this_moi t1_izgbnqo wrote
Reply to comment by RoosterImportant4283 in [OC] How to spot misleading charts? I would like to hear your opinion on the subject, also any tips design-wise? by dark_o3
Attempting to start a sentence with # angers the Reddit markup gods.
ConsciousWhirlpool t1_izgb1bl wrote
Reply to comment by statisticalanalysis_ in Protest movements as deadly as Iran’s often end in revolution or civil war by statisticalanalysis_
Worked. Thanks!
ProbablyCranky t1_izgaxyy wrote
Reply to [OC] Largest IPOs in history by giteam
I don't really understand why the creator of this wouldn't include the meaning of IPO somewhere.
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Reply to comment by AtLukesDiner in [OC] How to spot misleading charts? I would like to hear your opinion on the subject, also any tips design-wise? by dark_o3
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ConstantinSpecter t1_izg8lot wrote
Reply to comment by Sines314 in [OC] How to spot misleading charts? I would like to hear your opinion on the subject, also any tips design-wise? by dark_o3
Halon’s Razor would like a word.
“Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.”
Sleep_adict t1_izg8htn wrote
Reply to [OC] How to spot misleading charts? I would like to hear your opinion on the subject, also any tips design-wise? by dark_o3
I mean this is what FP&A and investor relations do as a job. It’s great
good_research t1_izg8cuz wrote
Reply to [OC] How to spot misleading charts? I would like to hear your opinion on the subject, also any tips design-wise? by dark_o3
Most of the issues with these would be resolved by including indicators of variance (e.g., error bars).
Jinal0 t1_izg8ckq wrote
Reply to [OC] How to spot misleading charts? I would like to hear your opinion on the subject, also any tips design-wise? by dark_o3
so basically what half of the graphs on this sub do
good_research t1_izg86w8 wrote
Reply to comment by Matrozi in [OC] How to spot misleading charts? I would like to hear your opinion on the subject, also any tips design-wise? by dark_o3
In scientific papers they'll generally have some measure of variance, and a readership that knows how to interpret it.
notkevinjohn t1_izg831t wrote
Reply to comment by dark_o3 in [OC] How to spot misleading charts? I would like to hear your opinion on the subject, also any tips design-wise? by dark_o3
Can you show me your data that these 'common practices' are being used to mislead more often than they are being used to accurate represent data?
dark_o3 OP t1_izg7tvp wrote
Reply to comment by babakadouche in [OC] How to spot misleading charts? I would like to hear your opinion on the subject, also any tips design-wise? by dark_o3
I’ve got your back, bro
statisticalanalysis_ OP t1_izg7nt4 wrote
Reply to comment by ConsciousWhirlpool in Protest movements as deadly as Iran’s often end in revolution or civil war by statisticalanalysis_
All of them probably used - try this: https://econ.st/3Fbjawx
spongesking t1_izg7mmp wrote
Reply to comment by drunkenviking in [OC] Largest IPOs in history by giteam
Not true. Stocks are divided into preferred and common stocks. The difference is that preferred stocks don't have voting rights; common stocks do.
I know the US government bought preferred stocks, but don't know how much. So, this could imply the US government wasn't the "true main shareholders".
Smythe28 t1_izg7l7q wrote
Reply to comment by rajimoto in [OC] How to spot misleading charts? I would like to hear your opinion on the subject, also any tips design-wise? by dark_o3
You can use all the correct scales, the correct timeframes, the right type of graph. But you should always attempt to understand the context behind why the data is being presented to you at all.
TownAfterTown t1_izg7jmz wrote
Reply to [OC] How to spot misleading charts? I would like to hear your opinion on the subject, also any tips design-wise? by dark_o3
Baseline selection. I see this one alot where people will show values relative to a baseline year or whatever, but the baseline is cherry-picked to fit their narrative.
TownAfterTown t1_izg7dzj wrote
Reply to comment by MrMitchWeaver in [OC] How to spot misleading charts? I would like to hear your opinion on the subject, also any tips design-wise? by dark_o3
This is a good point in that these presentations CAN be used to mislead but can be used to highlight useful information. But they should be transparent and provide that context.
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Reply to comment by shmerham in [OC] How to spot misleading charts? I would like to hear your opinion on the subject, also any tips design-wise? by dark_o3
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saschaleib t1_izg6tgh wrote
Reply to [OC] How to spot misleading charts? I would like to hear your opinion on the subject, also any tips design-wise? by dark_o3
The problem is that while all these issues can indicate a manipulative data presentation, there are also use-cases where each of them does make sense.
For example, if you look at stock prices, it is usually not informative to see them plotted as absolute numbers, as the viewer is normally only interested in the changes - which would be under-represented or even invisible with two almost identical bars.
Same with the double Y-axes: it can be useful to plot two different types of charts on top of each other, and then it is useful to have two axes. For example, you can have absolute values on one chart and percentage change on the other.
And last but not least: sometime only the last three years are indeed interesting.
But in general: very good overview :-)
babakadouche t1_izg6g8i wrote
Reply to [OC] How to spot misleading charts? I would like to hear your opinion on the subject, also any tips design-wise? by dark_o3
I think I'm going to do this in my next data meeting. You may have just saved my job.
bippidyboppidyboo4u t1_izgd8aq wrote
Reply to comment by Matrozi in [OC] How to spot misleading charts? I would like to hear your opinion on the subject, also any tips design-wise? by dark_o3
You didn’t answer their question: they asked about zero as the baseline.
What’s so special about zero?