Recent comments in /f/dataisbeautiful

BestBeforeDead_za t1_izj8o20 wrote

My only takeaway from studying 1st year statistics at university was that I can confidently not believe any statistics that I see anywhere anytime. Statistics has methods of completely re-representing (is that a word?) the data to the literal opposite of reality, if one simply chooses to do so.

2

DevinCauley-Towns t1_izj67t6 wrote

I would rebuttal this point a bit, since eliminating an axis and replacing it with labels directly on the data points can be an example of improving the data-ink ratio of a data viz, which is generally regarded as a positive in the field.

Edit: Obviously eliminating the axis and having 0 labeling is a no no since the values need to be specified.

3

NovaticFlame t1_izj22ag wrote

I think you got it backwards. AOL purchased Time-Warner, since they were worth more at the time. But AOL exec’s let them think it was the other way around, since AOL was young and inexperienced. AOL leveraged their high market cap due to the bubble to make a deal.

Source is from The Fifth Wave. Great read if you ever have time!

27

KinkyHuggingJerk t1_izj1dm1 wrote

It's usually less about what the starting Y value is as it is about the scaling for the overall data, coupled with a plot point to close to the starting y value.

I mean, people should be able to critically think through this, but if that were the norm, we would probably have flying cars robot slaves better living conditions less bullshit to deal with.

3

ellWatully t1_izj0kk4 wrote

I was thinking the same thing. Having two y axis scales left and right is only misleading if the two sets of data are displaying the same information for different groups. If they're displaying two different attributes of a system, different axes are often the only way to make the plot useful.

2

marsman t1_izj00gg wrote

>These are all expressed in percentage points but they have wildly different ranges and magnitudes. It would make no sense to use one single axis for two or more of those.

And importantly, there is the potential for trends to be highlighted by that sort of chart that wouldn't otherwise be visible, and that are accurately reflected in the data (so its not a manipulation).

2

marsman t1_izizrmv wrote

3 is fine if the period covered is the relevant period, it's not fine if you are trying to display a continuous trend. It could be problematic, or fine if you are showing a point of change where the previous period isn't relevant (so you aren't after a change in trend from a previous period).

2