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FailureToReason t1_j288njg wrote

Absolutely, but let's not ignore that large part of criminal investigation is 'gut feel' and instinct, and both the polygraph and body language are useful for what they are useful for, but neither is valuable as incriminating evidence. There have been plenty of people who acted guilty as sin but were completely innocent, and plenty of psychopaths who seemed completely innocent until a compelling piece of evidence blew the investigation open.

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Aussie_Mo_Bro t1_j288lxp wrote

They are equivocally, with no shred of a doubt

#not

accurate.

Not only that, they can easily be fooled. Like, stupidly easily.

They need to measure a "baseline" to get your "at rest" heartrate, breathing, body temperature, etc. Just hold your breath for a bit, this can fool the baseline.

Fun fact:

William Moulton Marston invented the polygraph test.

He and his wife created Wonder Woman.

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Musicman1972 t1_j287bsc wrote

You would if you're sitting in a police station with detectives saying they think you did it and you will go down for 20 years.

That scenario wouldn't make you nervous?

Do you know who it wouldn't make nervous? A sociopath with zero feelings.

I don't like the machine that thinks stress == guilt.

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FailureToReason t1_j2876s4 wrote

Except that it doesnt work like that. What if you're nervous not about the questions relating to a crime, but simply the fact that you're jammed in a small, bright room with cops who accusing you of a crime? Or what if you're nervous that they might get a bad reading and think you're lying when you're telling the truth? What if you clench your anus at the wrong moment? I guarantee you an innocent person is going to be plenty nervous and stressed going into a polygraph, and that's exactly what the polygraph is trying to measure.

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mayners t1_j28754f wrote

I'd add to this that people don't always get a share of the profits, known as dividends, only certain companies pay out dividends.

And also the price is partly affected by things like the estimated value of a company both now and down the line in a few years. Things like good news of expansion or new products will help the price while bad news like recession or increased fuel prices will reduce the price.

For example during covid most companies went down in price because they weren't allowed to open, while PPE companies increased because of both being allowed to operate and increase in demand.

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FailureToReason t1_j2857l7 wrote

Short answer: they're not accurate, can be easily fooled, and are basically inadmissible because they have a very weak scientific foundation

What they ARE good for, is manipulation. You swear up and down you didn't kill your wife. Detective asks, 'would you take a polygraph?' And you start sweating bullets. You complete the polygraph, and the polygrapher comes in and tells you 'I know you lied to me.' And maybe they do, or are at least suspicous because of your body language or evidence that contradicts you. But in that moment, under that pressure, people crack.. The cop may have absolutely nothing, and is just fondling in the dark. 'I know you lied on some of these questions.' Next thing you're confessing to a triple homicide that you may never have been caught for.

Edit: body language isn't necrssarily evidence, corrected the phrasing there.

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sim_kay t1_j28512y wrote

Yeah, that's highly unlikely.. Who wouldn't be nervous when interrogated by the police, even if you did nothing wrong? And than on the other hand there are sociopaths and psychopaths who are absolutely calm even if they murdered anyone. What would you do with them? Don't convict them because of the test?

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