The 2022 Mac Mini spec page shows "configurable" to 32gb which is the same language as the last one. So nope, much like the Mac Studio, there will be no RAM upgrades moving forward. Also guessing they are using those custom SSDs that can't be swapped with other hard drives, like the Studio.

The Mini has always been a great product, because you can keep beefing it up, but it looks like they want them to have a short life. This is the tradeoff for the $100 price drop, I assume.

I imagine they both won’t be. My Mac mini is well over 10 years old

I would think those who need more than 32GB of ram aren’t buying Mac minis.

Thanks! But I just realized I made a big mistake when doing the currency conversion(I didn't buy the parts in dollars). It would be more like 900 dollars. Sorry about the confusion, seems I can't math today.

On the bright side, there seem to be a few 6800xt available so getting the gpu shouldn't be too much of a problem :)

IDK about the M2 Mini, but the M1 was not upgradeable. This is Apple's new thing, and I hate it.

You got an excellent deal, enjoy your new setup, and hopefully you don’t have any headaches getting a gpu

Still can’t play games. Plus current PCs support up to 128gb of memory.

Shouldn’t every new model have “the longest battery life yet!”?

Game changing performance that ironically won’t allow you to game.

Now I’d love to see a m chip desktop variant that competes with Nvidia/AMD GPUs and Intel/AMD CPUs on the highest end.

Yeah I'm not arguing with what you did, Im just saying that changing it to be similar to the mac mini would yield a similar price to the mac mini.

How so?

Nope, Chuck Testa

>16gb ram instead of 64: $225 less

Actually 400$ less if you go for cheap ram, but fast ram has a big performance impact for my workload. I did try some cheap sticks from a friend but got 40% extra performance with this set.

> 650w psu instead of 1000w: $50 less

Fair, but I got it for 100$ so I am happy with it. Cheapest 650w PSU I can find in local market is 75$.

Normal case could have been as much as 150$ less, but space also has a price. I now have 4 easily accessible machines stacked in one cabinet with cable management built in.

Cheaping out on the cooler was an option, but cheap coolers usually have awkward mounting hardware when changing platforms. Only reason I didn't ziptie on my old cooler was because it wouldn't fit in the case. Most cheap high performance tower coolers are also too tall and this machine runs 24/7, so I went with a good one.

Here is the full budget for my build:

https://i.imgur.com/ZqsAGbK.png

I also have some network cards, nvme risers etc that aren't factored in because I have borrowed them from other stuff.

People have different needs, and this machine is a great fit for mine.

I just bought a AM5 mobo with a 7600X, 32GB DDR5 ram (2x16GB), 2x 1TB M.2 drives, all for less than 900 dollars, in Argentina, where this stuff is WAY more expensive than in the US.

Next will be a 6800XT for around 600 bucks, most expensive part by far.

edit: 900 bucks. Not 350. My bad.

Why would you get Apple TV if you didn’t have an iPhone?

Faster than the built in SSDs you will find in windows laptops with 8gb ram.

Lol.

Insane.

Big difference between cheaper than mac and high end pc though. You can definitely beat a mac in performance for the same price but that isn't what was discussed.

Is the memory still user upgradable?

all M1 and M2 chips are brain-meltingly fast. you literally cannot go wrong with a new Mac, it's insane. you can complain about them being expensive, but they are simply on another level in terms of power AND efficiency.

I really don’t think it matters for most devs. Most of my coworkers are using M1 machines and I haven’t heard of any issues from them.

Most folks do not need 64GB of RAM and most claiming tend to not need to either. RAM has gotten a ton cheaper even DDR5 and most don't need more than 16GB for what they do and won't even use much more. Same for CPU. Can go longer as most people just game as their most intensive task. You don't tend to need 1000W either.

So basically, you can build much cheaper than $1700 and definitely hit a higher quality build. Especially when you're comparing it to apple which typically has just flat out dumb prices for basic spec upgrades. Windows is gonna be cheaper 99% of the time.

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would it be correct to assume having a intel MBP is good for dev because of software compatibility?

the only coding i've started is in python & golang but it's for a cybersecurity project im exploring