Um no their hardware looks lame and don't game

Lol. Tell me you've never used a Garmin watch without telling me you've never used a Garmin watch. It's night and day difference if you care about health and fitness

iPhone versus any given android device is about 60-40 around me, favoring iPhone. Of those with iPhones, probably about 3 out of 4 seem to have Apple Watches. So that would make it roughly 40-50% of people I see have an Apple Watch, at least of those that have any smart watch at all. The other thing I notice is that those with an android device are less likely to have a smartwatch at all.

Don't judge them on a few bits of shitty software they developed as nothing more than sanitised spaces to show investors around instead of freaking them out with VR Chat.

It's the hardware that's the important point here, and nobody in the market gets even close to beating that price to performance ratio.

No, but it was the first( Garmin watch) a year ago to enter fda trials so it gets cleared first.

The Venu 2 Plus mentioned in the article is $50 more than the $399 Apple Watch. Doesn't seem that crazy.

How do you mean? I have no idea where you live so I can't speak to the pricing there, but here the price for Venu 2 is quite sensible.

I’m not even a boy. Let alone a fan. I am a nut for historical achievements in technology, regardless of who made it.

I do give credit when it’s due.

Smart phones with a touch screen didn’t exist before Apple. And I hardly even classify a BlackBerry or sidekick 3 as a “smart phone”.

Considering your big brain post history is limited to “deaf people don’t laugh at farts” I’m gonna go ahead and assume you weren’t alive when the iPhone came out.

Please, allow the adults to have constructive discussions. You have nothing to add here, I’m not even sure you’re 13 and allowed to be on this site.

Uh... How in the world do you compare a smart fitness-watch to an iphone( or any phone)?

I am a biased garmin fan boy, so take my word with a grain of salt.

Garmin is great in terms of providing fitness watches. The ekg feature is new to the Venu 2, but they have always had devices that have supported basic heart rate monitoring.

My Forerunner 10 that I got back in 2012 had a heart rate function. My current garmin Forerunner 35 also does heart rate monitoring, which came out before the first apple watch.

My parents both have Garmin Forerunners, a 255 and a 745. They both have wearable heart rate monitors that are separate and strap to the chest, which is more accurate than the radial reads you get from a watch.

My wife has the Garmin Venu 2. We just got it but haven't messed around with the functionality too much yet.

The Garmin app is also my favorite app for tracking my running and overall fitness.

lol - having owned both garmin and apple watches, there's no way i'd choose an apple watch unless I was just a plain naive fanboi

I’ve given away two because I don’t need another thing to charge and blowing me up with work emails

And also a demand problem. I don’t want to wear a fucking headset. What could have been an email is now going to become a meeting with head sets? No thanks. This can die a quick death

Literally prefaced with Apple products being great, dude 😂

Apple make nice looking but technically mediocre products that lock their customers into a massively restrictive and closed ecosystem (their earbuds not working as bluetooth headphones for any other device, for example - ridiculous). They are absolutely gimmick-driven, and they're usually just stolen ideas that they rebrand with stupid names like 'Magic Keyboard'.

Not to mention their deliberately oblique and expensive repair process, and charging through the teeth for simple accessories like a monitor stand or wheels.

I will applaud them on their aesthetic, and their ability to manipulate people into thinking their products are better than the competitors when they usually objectively aren't.

That’s literally the story

3k for fucking facetime and apple arcade yeah bro no

We already know EKG is effective in diagnosing disease. This means they were able to show similar performance to existing EKGs and I think it’s kind of a big deal. I’ve gotten an FDA clearance and I can tell you believe it or not it means something and they don’t just hand them out.

E: if you think using the phrase FDA cleared is meant to be deceptive, please tell us what phrase would be more appropriate. It’s exactly the correct thing to say.

Hold up with all that nonsense, this is reddit, we've all collectively decided that VR isn't viable tech, tens years ago even, just like when we all caught the Boston bomber.

FDA-cleared is the important distinction in this case because it’s a Class II product. FDA approved is more for drugs and vaccines. (Class III)

Low risk devices (Class I) don’t need clearance or approval.

Here’s one source: approved vs. cleared

Would this make a Garmin more attractive than an Apple Watch with EKG? I've heard good things about the Garmins but always wanted the heart monitoring features.

The cybersex thing is a meme, though it does happen sometimes in private worlds. In reality most of the "good" groups in vrchat that aren't children hang out in private worlds called "Friends+" which basically means friends of friends can join. If you click popular worlds you'll notice that half the population is in private instances like that, mainly to avoid children and toxic users.

Hell, furries have an entire network of friends and friends+ worlds that regularly reach 50+ users per instance on fridays, they also have entire private instanced conventions that have upwards of 1500 attendees whenever they happen.

It would probably be difficult to fit in with family, but I think many gamers with other gamer friends would probably find it fine.

Your comment just goes to show though that the video I linked is critically important for true mass adoption of VR/AR communication - having a photorealistic scan of yourself will be important in many contexts.

At $3000, this piece of kit will probably start out as the next Google Glass... owned and misused by assholes with more dollars than sense.

A big selling point for AR/MR/VR hardware is gaming and Apple doesn't have a very good gaming experience on any of their products right now. Apple Arcade simply exists and there's only so much one can do with phone-level graphics.

That being said, I'm not sure this headset will have the same end as Google glass. Apple will either quit right away or stand behind a product until it finally finds a fit.

Personally, I think releasing this in 2023 is a mistake. Apple should sit on it for another couple of years... preferably until the hardware can have a sub-$1000 pricetag.

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