Also Sony phones are made outside China

Probably sales of some kind. I used to pull that much when the markets were better. Don’t miss the stress though. Took a job with less hours and half the pay and now I get to actually see my family and friends.

Money is a lot different in China. I read about a teacher who taught all over the world getting payed around $50-60k a year on average, but only $12k in China. She was able to save over $6k that year because it's so cheap to live there.

Wtf do you do for that much money? What's your base pay? I make $35 an hour and I've had weeks where I worked 84 hours (18 being holiday hours), but I get taxed so heavily I could never make close to that. $4,500 down to like $2,500.

10 seconds? Sheesh I get the sense of urgency, but sometimes it takes me more than 10 seconds just to answer my phone in a non-emergency.

All Nintendo Switch users too.

I don’t know about slavery. In most countries it’s relatively good pay for limited skills/training. That said it is good to strive for a future where mundane and dangerous tasks are automated and universally educated humans can focus on more creative pursuits.

i see very little reason to believe they are. For instance the batteries for most smartphones made in the DRC are done under awful conditions for some miners, and amnesty international found LG don't give a damn. Actually no brand seems to be doing much about artisinal miners apart from Apple according to Amnesty, an independent charity representing miners in africa in this case.

Batteries are of course in every phone and an important part of the supply chain. So I think the amount of care brands have for the miners is quite indicative

Not on the ski slopes, apparently. The article says so far out of all these "ghost calls" auto-dials to 911 they got from an Apple Watch coming from the ski slopes, all of them have been accidental. It got so bad the manager had to tell his 911 operators to not worrying about calling back these numbers if it's from an Apple Watch & coming from the slopes, so that they could better focus on other real emergency calls.

> “It’s rare that someone falls on the mountain and there’s not a passer-by,” he said. “We’re hoping to get an actual 911 call from the person or someone on the scene.”

Line of Sight propagation is an actual concept. No simplification of anything

I accidentally discovered the emergency alarm on my iPhone during church

iirc it was under 5%, but I can't find the source again

Now imagine all that amplified by the fact that in China they earn in 1 month what a Canadian factory worker makes on a bad day.

Than add the fact that they live in inhumane conditions on factory campus, comparable to the KFC chicken bred for mass slaughter, resulting in a huge suicide increase among factory workers, most of them jumping from the factory rooftops or out of the Windows from higher floors.

Do you know what Foxconn did to prevents these suicides?

They've installed safely nets around the buildings and barred the windows.

So yeah, although factory jobs suck everywhere, there's really a HUGE difference between China and Canada.

Also a good thing to keep in mind when buying Apple products.

And all the NBA can do is kiss their ass and pretend it doesn’t exist. They are pretty woke until you threaten their pay day

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Shit... that's true. After the Fold 2 the Fold 3 and 4 are built in China.

Look I need the Internet at my fingertips, I have so many curious questions while outside the house. What if pizza never had an Italian name?? Would it be called a flatco? Cheesy bread???

I don’t wanna hear this, they’re already trying to take away my burgers.

https://youtu.be/D9tP9fI2zbE

This is why I only buy genuine organic Nokia sourced from the lakes of Finland! Think about the kids!

Samsung operates factories in South Korea, Vietnam, and Mexico. While I can't speak to the conditions in Vietnam and Mexico, South Korean factories aren't exactly a picnic. Samsung wields quite a bit of power in Korean society, and is notorious for suppressing news about working conditions at their Korean factories, though some particularly egregious situations have made news headlines in Korean news. (E.g. deaths due to prolonged exposure to hazardous chemicals.)

I get the sense that these incidents in Korea aren't of significant interest to Western news media, whereas tying Apple (American company) to Foxconn (Chinese factory) virtually guarantees clicks on American news websites.

You can turn it off when you are working out

By default it isn't turned on for fit, young people

They have very, very intricately designed mechanisms

After years and years of being Android (started Apple way back) I came back to Apple and was blown away by how fucking magical it all is

Software/hardware integration is unparalleled

The depth and thought of things like this feature, how you can choose to activate it and when, and how it had defaults based on age/activity/etc. - genius

Also saved a family member, elderly person fell and it called 911. They were able to say they'd be fine and no services needed, but it was a scare so the person stayed on the line with them. Amazing stuff.

*edit* realizing might be unrelated and about the newer crash detection features on some models of phone/watch/whatever it is, i was referring to fall detection

Foxconn's client list includes Sony, Microsoft, and Nintendo (game consoles), Amazon (Kindle and Echo), Google (Pixel and Nest/Home), HP (printers), and Cisco (wifi routers). Yet the media seldom attempts to tie these brands to Foxconn's abusive labor practices in their articles.

I can't imagine that the working conditions on the assembly lines for these non-Apple products are significantly different in general, so my assumption is that what specifically makes the iPhone assembly line 'Hell' is the frequency of seasonal overtime. I assume that overtime is also involved in the production of new PlayStations or Xboxes, but game console generations tend to be approximately 5 years whereas iPhones are on an annual cadence.

I'd like to know if Google products are also made at Foxconn under similarly 'hellish' conditions, or whether the production run is low enough in volume that it doesn't require lengthy periods of overtime.

Exactly! Once I fell off my bike because the road was slippery. It was in the city on a regular road with cars driving by so of course the first thing I did after the fall was to get myself and the bike off the road asap and on the sidewalk. Then I noticed the haptic from AW on my wrist and was lucky I managed to cancel the fall detection alert within the time limit. It’s not enough…

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