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Rpi's and the rest of the single board computers are basically cell phones. They are not really close to being laptops.

Hell I have sbcs with literal cell phone processors and the os that's packaged for it is an AOSP variant, not a native Linux variant.

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Right, edge computing. Very different than desktop/laptop.

Has any DIY/open-souce/linux based portable machines ever really went successful beside a concept?
All those open phones, easy upgradeable laptops / mobile devices, has any of them actually succeeded?

Even if a new niche markets do accept them, it is never enough to really succeed.
It is a nice concept but I don't think it is going to really go on battle a multi trillion market against samsung/dell/lenovo/apple etc.

how are they still so expensive? now almost half a year since the new platform launch and there are barely any boards below 200. It is completely insane to buy a 200 mobo for a 240 r5 chip with mobo features that basically don't improve gaming performance or most other enterprise software performance.

Even ddr5 is nowadays alright with the price

I’ve been working with riscv for the better part of a year. It’s not slower to the average end user (only noticeably slower for intensive research applications). It costs significantly less. The barebones architecture of tracking is not applicable to riscv architecture. That is external and would apply to potentially any add on microchips in the computer but not the core(s) of the processor itself.

Source: computer architecture and computer engineering student

Yep. And there was promise that prices would start to come down with AMD getting competitive on CPUs again. What ended up happening was Intel and AMD started increasing power consumption on CPUs to get even more clocks, and higher power draw means higher quality components. Then with the supply issues (even motherboards have on board chips) due to Pandemic price gouging became the norm, and Everyone was okay with it

> because the execs are panicked about the outlook of the next few years.

yea old self fulfilling prophecy.

so your execs are world class economists in addition to being lawyers?

or they are a bunch of scared old guys who want to protect their share of the firm, so they can keep on buying their houses and cars and watches?

Ask them why they are laying off and freezing hiring before the event occurs? Isn't that sort of assuring they'll lose business, have less revenue, make less money right now (ummm, tell me again, how do we get into a recession - oh yeah, by shrinking). They can always lay off when it actually happens (cause they don't care about people - just $$$$)

I put zero confidence into the ability of your execs to be economists (I give only a little more to actual economists). However, it is that blind groupthink that will become a self fulfilling prophecy and get us there.

I'm older. Back in the 90s building PCs was expensive. It's almost like we're going back to that.

Do you think having it in a laptop form factor is going to open up new spaces or will it even enable the existing ones to develop faster?

I am thinking of the embedded systems space, is this going to be better/cheaper to use than a JTAG? I would think not, since you would need to emulate the device instead of just using one, but curious to see what people here think.

Recessions are really declared after they happen. And even so, the official statistics that determine a recession dont really help quantify the state of the economy.

Price gouging for example is not even a factor.

> Raspberry Pi had 95.82 million GBP revenue

Raspberry Pi makes a lot of their money selling to businesses for commercial use.

A small powerful lightweight power efficient computing device is of course very popular to install in many kinds of equipment, not just makers.

Because it's just price gouging bullshit. We've experienced gdp growth while getting robbed.

The avian flu was used as a cover to double the price of eggs.

If you don't want to game at 4k, you'll be able to put together a pretty moderately priced rig that can max out games at 1440p.

Stick to 1080p, and you'll be able to cruise at max settings (non-rtx) in most games for relatively cheap.

The prices hit these staggering amounts because of the ever more diminishing returns for gaming at 4k and ray tracing.

This was literally my first thought upon seeing this.

Microcenter is selling Ryzen 3600 & B450 combos for $100 which in any other world would be a smoking deal you'd be insane not to jump on considering the 3600 is a great budget gaming & compute cpu, but weirdly unless you really need it there's not much point. CPU & motherboards are about to plummet in price for anything not absolute current gen.

Demand has dropped but the prices haven’t

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It’s almost as if people worrying about and preparing as if a recession is imminent, are causing the prophecy to become reality.

I have a prebuilt with Ryzen 5 3600, 16 GB ddr5, rtx 2060 for like $1100... It does everything and more on new games, and not that I multiscreen but I do have a 3 screen setup, so graphics is working those 2 others too. At one point in my youth I wanted cutting edge graphics, now I'm amazed at what I can do on a budget, screw the ones that are a grand or more for a graphics card, who are you people buying that stuff?

Mate, it wasn't even that long ago! When the intel 8000 series and Nvidia 10 series was fresh, prices were sane. That was only 2017-18, man.

> Raspberry Pi had 95.82 million GBP revenue.

Do you have a source on that? Highest I saw after a quick googling was 71m. Though, that's revenue and not profit. Twitter makes a ton of revenue but no profit for example.

Right? And yet the 'news' here is that they're mysteriously shipping less parts? No shit they're shipping less parts, they can't sell them as quickly when they're charging 2x as much ...