Who cares? Still ironic for companies to talk low about each other but still buy each others parts.

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You do have to respect that their ecosystem does actually work though. It’s not just a gimmick to say all these things work together, they actually do. Which is nice.

Look at their post history.

True, but I’m sure its a factor, even if only slightly. It can’t be if you have to outsource basically everything.

The real reason it's more expensive is because of Apple tax, not parts. $0.10 increase in BOM shouldn't increase the price by $200.

Uuuugh, why? If people want a large iPhone, there are max sizes.

My strategy: every four years I buy last years small variant. Worked until this year: no 14 mini available.

Another datapoint for case-less

Except the 13 line up in fact did not include both. And a case doesn’t cover up the camera bump. But thank you for the revolutionary suggestion. Had never considered that.

Personally I don't see what's wrong with "chins" and "foreheads". Bring them back!

But they are inherently different products. Just because say a Dell PC has a Samsung SSD doesn’t make it a Samsung device or even close to any of the devices Samsung actually does offer.

Companies like Samsung really rely on selling components rather than selling devices, thats how a lot of the companies actually make their money. Because of this, they aren’t going to turn down a sell in their cash cow when the buyer is going to give competition in their other markets. Thats just a horrible business decision. Competition makes for a healthy market.

This is one of the reasons why apple is a little more expensive than the rest. They use very few of their own parts while other companies can use a lot of their own. This is why most of the other companies can afford the “we accept all trade-ins” campaigns that actually take a decent chunk of cash off.

Also, the division that makes components is an entirely different division than the one that makes devices, so there’s that. They aren’t related. Same parent company, but entirely different entities.

And this is news to who? They’ve been using Samsung parts since the beginning.

This. Wont buy new iphone until the next mini.

Maybe they have an iPhone 8 right now? That doesn’t mean they’re trashing a brand new phone for it. But also- one person does not a sweeping generalization make.

“Offer no additional protection”

Well that’s just flat out wrong, if you’re buying a decent case like an Otterbox

Not to mention since the camera housing sticks out now you practically have to have a case.

I mean, one of the top comments at one point was something along the lines of “Red Pro? Instabuy!” So there is some truth to it.

OMG can't wait to totally ignore it again!

Not saying you’re wrong per se, but saying “innovation is dead” about the product after the one that’s still not even released is a bit of a bold statement. That generation could be the one to upload your brain to the cloud. Probably not, but you probably shouldn’t call innovation dead based off rumors of an un-announced phone.

It doesn’t really hurt anyone to have both. But also- just put a case on like everyone else if the color offerings offend your sensibilities.

The person you’re replying to is selling hyperbole anyway. Very few people are trading in their phones for color changes, and it’s certainly no more common for iPhones than it is for any other brand. This is just tired Apple fan bashing tripe, as is the Reddit way.

I just want a matte steel frame 😕

Is it really so difficult to color a phone?

Caseless. Everyday is an adventure.