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Turtleduckgoesquack t1_ja6ge9e wrote

It's unfortunate but these large corporations are the only ones which can hire large low skilled or unskilled labour forces in India and other developing countries, and as abusive as they might be, their presence does help the economy and eventually the poor in those countries.

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pdinc t1_ja5z57m wrote

Ballsy move, given some of the issues Apple's been facing. It should get better over time but there's massive cultural & regulatory issues to solve for beyond just the labor skilling and operational efficiency issues.

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>At a casings factory in Hosur run by Indian conglomerate Tata, one of Apple’s suppliers, just about one out of every two components coming off the production line is in good enough shape to eventually be sent to Foxconn, Apple’s assembly partner for building iPhones, according to a person familiar with the matter.
This 50 per cent “yield” fares badly compared with Apple’s goal for zero defects. Two people that have worked in Apple’s offshore operations said the factory is on a plan towards improving proficiency but the road ahead is long.

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>In China, suppliers and government officials took a “whatever it takes” approach to win iPhone orders. Former Apple employees describe instances in which they would estimate a certain task might take several weeks, only to show up the next morning to find it already completed at inexplicable speed.
Operations in India are not running at that sort of pace, said a former Apple engineer briefed on the matter: “There just isn’t a sense of urgency.”
A person involved in Apple operations said the process of expanding to India is slow in part because of logistics, tariffs and infrastructure. This person said Apple’s diversification into south-east Asia has been smoother thanks to the Regional Comprehensive Economic Partnership, a free trade agreement among 10 regional nations.

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>Wadhwa acknowledged that the fragmented, bureaucratic government in India was something Apple would need to adapt to. He suggested its engineers learn the art of jugaad — a way of “making do” or transcending obstacles. “Because everything in India is an obstacle,” he said.

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nonagonsopen t1_ja5xwle wrote

Yeah they definitely need big companies to help job growth. It just sucks all these major companies select third world countries and economically deprived countries just cause they know they can exploit the workers for the lowest wages possible. All so they can make insane profits themselves.

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Mahameghabahana OP t1_ja5vvru wrote

There already skilled labour in Samsung manufacturing plants in india as Samsung have been manufacturing phones in india for quite a year. You can't make factories in an new country and expect the same production rate or quality as that new country would lack skilled labour for that problem, which was the case with apple but not with Samsung. It doesn't mean we indian are not normal human or are intelligent people as many in this sub previously implied, the situation would be same in anyother countries apart from china and maybe Vietnam including manufacturing in USA. Having a skilled labour is important.

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Nostonica t1_ja5tct7 wrote

Hardware support is Stella, better than windows if the manufacturer goes bust and you upgrade to a new version of windows.

More importantly if you use a arm based CPU chances are your peripherals will just work as if you're on a Intel/AMD CPU.

It does help that manufacturers just re-use the same components and add branding, so a single driver will unlock multiple bits of hardware.

The drama occurs when someone creates something custom and niche. Chances are if that niche item is for server use it will get Linux support from the get go, if it's a custom 5$ RGB fan pack and controller from a random listing somewhere, then you may be stuck with windows. Oh and 56k dial up modems still cause issues.

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