TheIllustrativeMan t1_jbqg3ez wrote on March 10, 2023 at 10:35 PM

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Ironically, one of my Thinkpads is a "thin at all costs" one - the X1 Carbon. Still has a solid selection of ports though.

myonlinepersonality t1_jbqfg2d wrote on March 10, 2023 at 10:31 PM

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Jeepers, what do you use that badboy for?

TheNorthComesWithMe t1_jbqesdc wrote on March 10, 2023 at 10:26 PM

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Yes, there is an actual reason there are business class devices and consumer class devices. It's not because businesses are quirky and want a different badge on their laptops to make them feel special.

gazorpaglop t1_jbqdfo3 wrote on March 10, 2023 at 10:16 PM

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Yeah I’ve been waiting to buy a pi4 without all the extras for a while now

fuzzylumpkinsbc t1_jbqcylu wrote on March 10, 2023 at 10:13 PM

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These laptops completely suck out all the fun from using a laptop, specifically the Latitude 5000 series which are more for your regular type employee.

You'd think that business want their employees to stay productive, looking at these laptops all day with their bland designs, screens and speaker is a pain

BaneThoth766 t1_jbqce2o wrote on March 10, 2023 at 10:09 PM

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‘Gaming’ laptops are a rip off as well

pseudocultist t1_jbqc4ng wrote on March 10, 2023 at 10:07 PM

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Also consumer laptops come with Win 10 home and these Dells come with 10 pro.

I am switching a small business over right now to Dells enterprise line. They thought the cost was steep too, but I pointed to the stack of a dozen physically broken consumer grade laptops they’ve gone through, and the cost to relicense their machines Windows, and the warranty. And now they see the light.

Worth noting you can get last years models for like 60% off through Dell Premier so really they’re not that much more at all. And their sticker price is like 2x what things actually cost through Premier. So a $6k laptop might be $1500 to the company.

EggyT0ast t1_jbqc4ff wrote on March 10, 2023 at 10:07 PM

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And when the sales rep has somehow put every opportunity, follow-up, and other details in that spreadsheet, in a convoluted, impossible-to-understand way (unless you are that individual), as both a "workflow" and "job security" (instead of a more sane option like Salesforce), and the spreadsheet is so large after just a few months that you need something overpowered to even get past the Preview screen...

chipt4 t1_jbqbnme wrote on March 10, 2023 at 10:04 PM

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Did you mean 48 hours? Or actually 4 hours.. that's impressive if so

Mulligan315 t1_jbqblxe wrote on March 10, 2023 at 10:04 PM

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The fascination with weight always amuses me. I want power with portability. How hard is it for people to carry an extra pound or two?

chipt4 t1_jbqb7ww wrote on March 10, 2023 at 10:01 PM

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Man I had that yoga s1 and absolutely loved it. Gave it to a buddy and it's still going strong. Would absolutely love an updated version with the same features (mechanically locking keyboard, stylus silo) but smaller bezels and modern internals. The size/form factor was perfect imo.

Edit: moved to a Lenovo legion 5, which I like (I got an especially good price on it) but it's worlds away when it comes to build quality and portability

Edit 2: I think I'm gonna try to find something cheap to give my buddy and get the yoga back, haha

josephseeed t1_jbqandw wrote on March 10, 2023 at 9:57 PM

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I have a Dell Latitude 5430 for work. It is literal garbage. I could buy a $500 laptop tomorrow with a better CPU, Screen, Keyboard, and track pad. And I am sure my employer paid a grand for this piece of crap

MoistJheriCurl t1_jbqab5a wrote on March 10, 2023 at 9:55 PM

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An HP dragonfly would be better if you want a lightweight magnesium chassis

DrugsRBadMan t1_jbq97pe wrote on March 10, 2023 at 9:47 PM

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Did they not teach you to be nice?

SparseGhostC2C t1_jbq92yh wrote on March 10, 2023 at 9:46 PM

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Business laptops are a bad deal if you buy them retail, without a doubt. Businesses get service and hardware deals from Dell, and buy these computers in bulk, which cuts down the per unit cost a good bit.

Even then, based on specs they're still not a "great deal" but as other people have touched on in this thread, the extended support with drivers, bios updates and on-site service that gets rolled in with these business focused models makes them a much less "wasteful" purchase when done that way. The business focused models tend to not have as many hardware revisions, so the same driver packages and images can be used over a longer time period.

The article is right in saying your average consumer looking for 1 new laptop is better off buying something else, but insinuating that businesses are just wasting money on these is a more complex argument that I'm more spurious about.

RighteousWaffles t1_jbq8pcb wrote on March 10, 2023 at 9:44 PM

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Airplane propellers are a great example too.

upstateduck t1_jbq6z3o wrote on March 10, 2023 at 9:32 PM

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that is exactly what they are saying. Tax policy is written to incentivize/disincentivize spending.

A perfect analogy is the 2017 tax act that changed the deductibility of private aviation. Previously the maximum deduction for a plane was the equivalent of a 1st class ticket for each trip taken. Now folks can deduct the full cost of owning/operating private. The folks selling planes are ecstatic because taxpayers are now subsidizing some portion of the costs of owning private planes

BattleWagons t1_jbq5xww wrote on March 10, 2023 at 9:25 PM

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I've got an x1 carbon nano, which is highly portable but the display and (especially) webcam are terrible.

n-x t1_jbq4vva wrote on March 10, 2023 at 9:19 PM

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Haven't business laptops always been a bad deal? I bought an HP Omnibook 6000 on Sept 11th 2001 (yes, really) and it has been such a disaster that to this day I still use an unther-the-desk workstation as my primary cumputer. That machine has just completely ruined my ability to trust laptops. Thanks, HP.

Djaaf t1_jbq39c2 wrote on March 10, 2023 at 9:08 PM

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Never underestimate the ability of people to torture excel files. I've seen entire oil refinery models running in an excel spreadsheet and trust me, you'll need every bit of power from a core I7 and 32Gb of ram to make it work...

Doggleganger t1_jbq2ufw wrote on March 10, 2023 at 9:05 PM

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Thinkpads are also great because they don't suffer from the "thin at all costs" problem mentioned in the article. For a work laptop, I want lots of different ports, including a full-on Ethernet port without a dongle. Sometimes you need that wired connection when traveling. And HDMI (without dongle) is also a must. Macs have ditched a lot of these ports, but Thinkpad still has them.