Agreed. I feel like we’re saying the same thing.

The tech can't progress if they don't push for it. How else do you think technology develops to be acceptable for the masses?

Time solves very little. It's only really active investment and product iterations that are responsible for mass market viable technology advances.

> We had sci-fi desires of smartphones for decades, we just didn't call them that

Yet most people didn't want a cellphone until the late 1990s. Turns out that humans universally reject all hardware shifts, with a chance of redemption when the tech has matured. People didn't like early brick cellphones, they didn't like CLI PCs, they didn't like early TVs with limited programming.

As Steve Jobs said (paraphrasing), the goal is to build products that people will want before people realize they want it. Apple started out as a PC company building out a market that the masses didn't care about until 15 years later, a market that was considered dead, a fad, in search of a use, many times throughout its emergence.

VR will either be accepted or rejected when the tech has matured. When 90% of the planet doesn't know what VR even stands for in 2023, you can't expect them to make a rational decision. When most people right now can't imagine how VR will evolve beyond higher resolution, their opinion carries little weight.

> Ironically, instead all this pissing about you could make quite normal VR etc. far more mainstream - it's more viable this time round than ever before.

> But nobody wants this mixed reality bollocks.

Good Mixed Reality is an objective upgrade to every VR user. It makes VR safer and easier to use even if you don't use any MR-specific applications.

Top hit on Google.

Paywall

What bugs?

I was going to get the Meta ones for a gift, but maybe I’ll just wait and have my wife get these ones

They are calling the bankruptcy attorneys now

Where did you get this nonsense?

Lol good luck with the gimmicks

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Stop pushing for VR. The tech isn't there yet.

Nobody wants it.

We had sci-fi desires of smartphones for decades, we just didn't call them that.

But nobody is sitting there wanting Tron to happen.

Ironically, instead all this pissing about you could make quite normal VR etc. far more mainstream - it's more viable this time round than ever before.

But nobody wants this mixed reality bollocks.

Considering Apple hasn’t done anything innovative since Jobs, this is another conservative move by Cook to not get left behind in case Meta succeeds. It’ll be a product that costs 3 times as much as what’s on the market and only the fanboys will think it’s revolutionary. Also it’ll be as ergonomic as a brick.

Clunky and awkward - exactly like today's vr devices. If Apple nails it, it could be a similar revolution.

worked so well for Microsoft and google people have already forgot about them.

I would half disagree. Smartphones weren’t popular because the interface and capabilities were clunky and awkward. Steve summed it up in that first keynote, iPod + Phone + Internet communicator. They knew they had created a new class of product, I don’t think anyone could have known HOW BIG the market would be. To me, what set it apart was the interface and that the tech had evolved enough to create a smooth experience in a compact form factor (the first iPhone was pretty small!)

I do agree though that the competition now is a totally different situation. Apple was competing with Palm, Sony, & Blackberry. Not every major tech brand.

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Smartphone were far from obvious at the time. Everyone else was trying to shrink their phones. Now we all have roofing shingles in our pockets.

It will go the way of google glass, don’t invest so much apple, fix the bugs in iOS instead

Zuck hasn't expected any market takeoff until the mid to late 2020s, so the jury is still out.

I’m also skeptical but it’s very different for a social media company to try to develop success as a hardware design company. If you made a short list of companies that would successfully develop a headset that helps it go mainstream, Apple would have to be near the top of that list.

Again, I’m skeptical. This seems like a less obvious win than smartphones were and there’s already much more competition in the VR space than there was in smart phones in 2008. If they do something extraordinary, I suspect it will be from an interface innovation.

It’s worked out so well for Zucc.

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Valve made a PC, not a console. Once its in your hands, you can do whatever you want hardware or software wise. Very big distinction to make.

And yeah, I had to make a correction +2d after your comment it was that off

I mean you can easily buy a 45W+ usb c charger for like $20~