I mean…the original post is about a record player but….sure. MP3 player works as well, better, whatever.

Still, I personally can’t actually find my old MP3 player from a million years ago but I know exactly where my record player is, so based on ease of locating, record player wins lol.

Was about to suggest the sound “coloring” you get with analog audio devices. Hard to beat the warmth of vinyl, especially if you’re into tube rolling and have a nice set of speakers.

Now THIS is news…. For the oldies

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At some point someone will make a digital filter that sounds just like a record

This became crystal clear for me on the day Nils Lofgren left Spotify.

Neat

Last year - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZF9TdLsjt8

...what does that have to do with what I'm saying. Just like a physical copy, if the makers go out of business or decide to stop selling the product you won't have access to GETTING it anymore. Once you have access, make a copy. I don't need iTunes to playback my already downloaded media.

>Wrong.

You do know you’re just purchasing a license, right? A license that can be revoked at the behest of the service/point of sale.

I mean if you’re going the solar panel route an MP3 player takes a hell of a lot less energy than record player and can hold more music that you could ever reasonably carry in a physical format. It’s an odd comparison.

Wrong, you don't, because you can still download that media and save it on another medium. You do own that "copy" that license gives you access to.

No where did I state multiple technologies can't exist, I explicitly said you can't compare analog vs digital exactly because they are different. Vinyl and other analog mediums will have their specific use case against digital.

When we're talking in the same medium space, sales and use does dictate in common language, obsolescence. We're not talking in absolutes here.

The same advantage you state with physical copies you can have with downloaded copies, because it's all digital, and that's my whole point. Downloaded media can be saved to physical copy for backups if need be. The world we live in now is built for downloaded/over the cloud media, we don't have physical digital readers on the majority of our technology for a reason.

Lastly whatever safety you get from physical medium gets demolished by saving that same -digital- copy on a flash nand drive. More robust & more accessible

And it’s perfectly at home in crowded airport and train terminals where you can’t sit down.

Audio-Technica of the 80s made products in Japan. These now are licensed OEM turntables made by Taiwan or China manufacturers such as Hanpin or Ya Horng.

You just used sales figures to prove your point - as if multiple technologies (physical and digital) can’t coexist.

And what happens if say, Apple pulls their licensing agreement? You lose everything you’ve “purchased,” because you don’t actually own the product you purchased. With physical media, you at least own and can access it in perpetuity.

You mean you don't have your selection of Picnic vinyls?

That's not goalpost moving....just because you can still buy a floppy disk doesn't mean it's not obsolete.

There's a difference between analog (Vinyl) and digital (CD/DVD).

I wonder how much longer this is going to matter. For audio, sample rates and bit depths are so high that the only real constraints left are storage space and streaming capacity. I honestly wouldn’t even believe someone if they said they could tell the difference between an analog recording and it’s 192k / 32b transfer.

But I suppose analog will always have a place, though, because analog mediums - whether it’s 2-inch tape or vinyl - color the sound in a way that most people find pleasant, even if they aren’t consciously aware of it.

I had one of the originals back in the 1980s when I was in the Marine Corps. I didn’t have a lot of room for a stereo, and this fit into my locker. Sound quality was not great, but certainly good enough to learn songs.

Sales don’t equate the obsolescence of physical media. Don’t try and move the goalposts.

I hope they don't come back. I'm saving so much money just buying dvds and blu rays for pennies. Don't go looking for them! That dinosaur tech is not for you, it's for me lol

I feel you. I just lol’d at thinking about it being “portable” vs. minimal or compact.

What do you think the quality on this thing will be like? And how limited edition?

Did you see their crystal record player?

God I hope they bring it back

Never left the trapper keeper in my van