Honest question: Why should I buy a new graphics card when graphics in general is starting to stagnate so much? A (cherrypicked) example would be Gotham Knights that just came out, it honestly doesn't look all that much better than Arkham City which I played on my 770 perfectly fine. It somehow feels like certain devs have gotten worse at utilizing the graphic cards' ability or something.

monolingual english speaking american; cant read it, what does it say the price is?

1600+ Euro for XX80 series card, no thank you!
I can afford it, but i dont want to, it's like worst price performance case we seen in past decades

They just changed the first digit from 0 into 1 since last gen lmao

>Asus seems to have gone mad, I was already wondering why they priced the 4090 TUF and Strix extremely high, especially when comparing it to the Suprim X, but it seems that they have raised prices across the board.

And thats exactly why I went from a Strix to a Suprim XD

I wonder if GPUs that were made In europe would be cheaper.

1070

Oh kurva. 1469.4€ ($1,199 = 1224.50€ + 20% VAT = 1469.4€) my ass.

Even my 1080 will do for another couple of years at these prices..

Their GPUs are several generations behind despite their naming.

I'm team red now, fuck nvidia

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AMD here I come

Y’all know y’all don’t gotta buy it right….? Lol I got a 3080ti and I’m set for years

That’s not true lmfao, there are older parts available to game on 1080p/1440p, the new cards are tailored for 4K gaming which is the niche market, you can build a pc for less than $800 and have 1080p gaming

Well, I'm snatching an extra 3080 just in case mine dies.

Those prices are insanity.

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Laptops are an alternative

Nvidia are making a really good argument to go with AMD here. If 7900 XTX performance comes close enough to what a 4090 can do while using about 100 watts less and costing only two thirds the price then it should be a no-brainer (unless you really need CUDA for something).

I dont think thats quite true. Back in the day the top tier hardware was cheaper, but it also became obsolete much faster. 2-3 years and you were barely trudging along. Nowdays you can have a 10 year old pc that can still run pretty much anything with decent fps if you dont max all the settings out.

A decade is about what I need to get through my Steam backlog.

Then I've got the GOG backlog to look forward to!

If PC gaming becomes a niche for customers, it will become a niche for publishers too.

Why would a publisher spend time and money on a PC version/port if barely anyone is going to buy it vs console?

The PC gaming industry needs affordable cards to survive.

Seems like the crypto requirement for massive GPU power is becoming less and less popular (especially with insane energy prices), so at some point Nvidia will need to adjust their prices so enough people can actually afford them.

PC gaming will slowly become an absolute niche, most gamers will flock to smartphone or consoles (SONY and Microsoft will continue to keep the hardware prices low in order to get market shares).

That's a sad truth, and I don't see AMD or NVIDIA do a thing to stop that from happening. Both have massively increased prices (Ryzen is no longer a good budget price/performance ratio product, instead it's an ultra-expensive luxury brand).

When they increased the prices massively from Ryzen 1000 to 5000, it became quite clear how the future would look like. There are no more cheap new 150-200 buck CPUs.

You don't have to play underdog anymore, when you have sizeable market shares.

At the end of day, AMD, NVIDIA and Intel will demand whatever prices they can get away with.

If prices keep increasing the next couple cycles like they did the last 3 or so we'll be looking at 3000 - 4000 EUR for a flagship card within the decade. That is compared to the 500 they were a decade prior to now.

Pretty crazy.

ASUS
Asus TUF Gaming GeForce RTX 4080 - 1.809,90 Euro
Asus TUF Gaming GeForce RTX 4080 OC - 1.829,90 Euro
Asus ROG Strix GeForce RTX 4080 OC - 1.969,90 Euro
Asus ROG Strix GeForce RTX 4080 - 1.959,90 Euro

Inno3D
Inno3D GeForce RTX 4080 X3 - 1.619,90 Euro
Inno3D GeForce RTX 4080 X3 OC - 1.669,90 Euro
Inno3D GeForce RTX 4080 iChill X3 - 1.749,90 Euro
Inno3D GeForce RTX 4080 iChill Black - 1.899,90 Euro
Inno3D GeForce RTX 4080 iChill Frostbite - 1.819,90 Euro

MSI
MSI GeForce RTX 4080 Gaming Trio - 1.699,90 Euro
MSI GeForce RTX 4080 Gaming X Trio - 1.769,90 Euro
MSI GeForce RTX 4080 Suprim X - 1.869,90 Eur
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(personal note)

Asus seems to have gone mad, I was already wondering why they priced the 4090 TUF and Strix extremely high, especially when comparing it to the Suprim X, but it seems that they have raised prices across the board.

That will probably also mean that the 7900 XTX Strix will cost somewhere in the 1400 € or more range (most US based companies have used the weak € (compared to Dollar, as of right now) as an excuse to raise prices by 20% compared to the US MSRP). That's disappointing for interested buyers.