Cloud gaming will never be good, you can't travel faster than the speed of light so latency will always suck.

I am honestly surprised they don't ship a standalone PCIe Ray tracing compute unit, purely consisting of RT cores for professionals (ala physx cards) as they stand to gain the most with quick building of lightmaps and scenes. The rest of us stand to gain very little because like you said, we have gotten very good at faking realistic lighting scenarios with high efficiency and brute forcing it sucks ass.

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I dont care about RT so its even better for me

Yeah I know, 4090 is 2300 minimum here so

Flagship PC gaming IS a niche.

It should be a niche. "The very best graphics card money can buy" is never going to be mainstream and it never was.

Look at the steam hardware survey. Mainstream cards are xx60 and xx50.

These are enthusiast cards for people will8ng to pay out the nose to experience tech earlier.

You don’t get it bro if I don’t see my reflection in the skyscraper windows at 4k 144hz I can’t enjoy a game.

I have a 3070 laptop and I plan to stick with it until I can’t play the games I want to at medium settings while getting 60fps. Probably a good 5-6 years at least.

These guys buy flagship models every single generation and wonder why prices keep going up.

With only 60hz screen, is this a joke?

As far as my wallet is concerned the 30 series just launched.

1k cheaper for about 20-30% less RT performance is a steal. Nvidia is only preferable for productivity workloads now it seems.

Basically the default here in Europe for a 4090. They're starting at €2000. 4080s are looking at €1800 or €1900 ball park.

Agree. Doesn't help too that almost all games are cross platform and the ones that aren't seem to be more CPU heavy anyways. Anything cross platform will be playable by decades old cards.

We would never have found this out otherwise.

Don't forget about cloud gaming. It'll come good within the next decade.

Ty

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It won’t come close in RT which is the elephant in the room. It all depends how important RT becomes moving forward.

I am unfortunately stuck with team green as I purchased a G-sync monitor that was quite expensive. I do like G-sync as well but, I am not going to pay 2000$ for a GPU. I guess I'll get a 3080 or 3080ti on sale.

We've hit a point of diminishing returns with current graphics. We are very good at approximating the majority of real world effects at almost no cost to performance. But getting those last few effects is what's hard right now. Ray tracing is not only more computationally intensive, it also just hasn't had that much research done for optimising it for performance. All the ray tracing engines you see in 3D video production software are optimised for accuracy and flexibility. We don't just need more powerful hardware, we also need to figure out how to better utilise it for these new techniques, which takes time.

Bought a 970 and used it for 8 years. No issues with any game I played cause the majority of them were as you said, indie games. Crosscode, Hero Siege, Neon Chrome, and Moon Hunters to name a few. Big company games are fun but they lack the replayability and challenge I enjoy from the indie games

2000 for a 4080!?!

I mean current cards are miles ahead of current gen consoles. I recently upgraded, but my last 1070 rig from 6 years ago was still running almost everything perfectly fine, except those "graphic card sellers" type of products. If you consider that most games worth playing are indie titles that could run on decade old hardware anyway, I don't see a big problem. I also think that necessity to upgrade will decrease even further in the future.

It's a trend, PC gaming will become more niche, but at least for the generation that grew up with them, I think it'll be there forever.

How insane. It’s also insane that nVidia likely got the pricing right and these cards will sell out.

just don't expect that 7900 XTX will cost 999 Eur in Europe. It will more likely be 1200-1400 Eur

>Nowdays you can have a 10 year old pc that can still run pretty much anything with decent fps if you dont max all the settings out.

Say that to my gtx 1070 from build i did in 2017, while technically it can run anything by reaching 60fps, theres no joy doing that on low settings