I felt like I had a stroke reading that headline.

Will most likely be twice the cost of normal scooters and not justifiable even with today’s gas prices

Please Honda, just give me an electric version of the Helix. It was already the perfect scooter, just slap some batteries and an electric motor in it.

Yes. Those pedals are just decorations. Doubtful the seat or pedals are in the correct position for anyone. Doesn’t look very adjustable.

I messed around with motorized bikes using ICE engines back in the late 2000's, always wanted to do an electric one... but the prices of batteries and speed controls always put it out of sight. Are batteries that much cheaper now?

Americans be like if anyone in the current zip code can sleep then it’s not fun to drive :(

and you're probably right. not as familiar with the MTB game right now

Yeah but is a self-build road legal?

Probably at least $1500-2000, and that's really low-balling. I'd say just build your own, either way.

You can build a 1500w 52v 21ah ebike that goes about 35mph with a range of 30-50miles in the realms of ~$500 if you already have a bike. Much more affordable than anything prebuilt, with far greater performance.

They aren't pricing it at a 1/3rd of the civic

Considering they have Mopes you don’t have to pedal at like 3-4K I think it will be ebike prices.

Philly?

Make an Electric Trail-90 next plz...

Some also have mandatory pedal assist. So you have to pedal to get the emotor to work.

This is so dogs-balls-obvious it kills me.

road bike, yes. unfortunately, mid-spec mountain bikes now START at like 3500 usd. past couple years have been rough lol

Article says it's if the motor can't get you up a hill.

That would make it unrealistically expensive for someone like me, that’s for sure. I got my cheap lil grom copy a couple years back for $1200 and put another ~$1000 in parts on it since then. Now its actually faster than the Hondas in my city… and I like the way it rides better than the Hondas I’ve tried too. It would be nice to cut out trips to the gas station every 100 miles by going electric, but is what it is, maybe someday.

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No one remembers that there where mopeds that where pedal start, like push starting a car.

uggg in my state/city the rules are so dumb! The bike lanes are filled with people on electric scooters/bikes that really shouldn't be there. You know what I love? Being on a bike in the bike lane and having a dude on an electric bike zoom past me way to close going 20-30mph. At this point in time a lot of these things are essentially just motor cycles/mopeds which are not allowed in bike lanes. If you want to make the argument that it's safer for them to be in the bike lane, then people are missing the point of having bike lanes.

We really should start requiring more people to register these devices, like mopeds and motor cycles, and require the scrutiny. AKA head lights, brake lights, turn signals, etc. Even the people who ride unregistered dirt bikes on the road have better common sense than a lot of the electric scooter/bike people (sans the dirt bike gangs that over take entire roads doing wheelies).

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I mean you can get decent e-bikes for $1000 and really good ones for $2000 and a decent regular bike is like at least 400- 500$.

If you have like a $2000 2010 car, I think you're very soon going to figure out why you were able to buy it for $2000

moped is motor - pedal

Twice as expensive as my 2010 car yes absolutely. Nothing in the design nor R&D justifies that much money. Not even close.