yeah, 4 of the cards are at MSRP and then go up from there.

Wouldn't be surprised to see them return in the future if market conditions change, maybe as a partner for AMD or Intel even though they kind of denied that option when they were asked about it a couple months ago.

Yeah the only point of going for AIBs now seems to be for lower fan noise, cooling, and look/build quality if you care about that but even then the FE models have caught up in those departments. Personally probably gonna try and get a 4080 FE next year when prices on it inevitably drop once RTX 30 supply clears.

4090 FE has been getting great reviews so far from tech outlets and I expect it will be the same for the 4080 FE. Nvidia has really stepped up the design quality of their FE cards in recent years. It does suck that it seems like they're disregarding their AIB partners at this point but for consumers its nice to have a good quality FE option at MSRP.

Prepare your anus

Yeah i'll just stick to my watercooled 3080 which runs every game on max settings at least 60 FPS, I think i'll survive.

Literally did a torture test with Cyberpunk 2077 and the only setting not maxed was raytracing I believe I put on preferring performance. Still looks absolutely gorgeous, especially when it rains. Get a pretty rock solid 60 FPS.

This is pretty much the 30 series scalping prices all over again, except now it's the company and the retailers doing it lmao.

Oh, you mean another card that we dont have third party benchmarks for?

7900XTX

Stands for Massively Serious Ripping Pain and is usually localised to the wallet/arse.

Misleading headline.

Just buy the 7000 series

Maybe I'm getting old but I can't justify the cost on it; video games that require that power I just end up watching like movies lol. For everything else there's mastercard, mid series cards that are already overkill.

And I guess people who need it for their jobs?

I got a $460 used RTX 3080 a week or two ago. I was skeptical, but I benchmarked her and she runs exactly at spec! 😁
I know $460 isn't chump change in this economy, but the card still sells new for $799.99, and used it's still easily $550-650 so I think I did alright 🤷‍♂️
Like everyone in here is saying tho; it's bewildering what people are willing to pay for high end specs.
This is my first technical 'high end' gpu purchase and with how the market is looking; I'll be holding onto her for a loooooong time before my next upgrade. And even then I'll be seeking the used market.
I was getting by fine with a used GTX 1650 Super before this that played most of the indie titles I like no problem, and most every recent release at 1080p medium/high settings (some games did run horribly however and my rig was starting to show signs of age, but most of those games I could turn a setting or few down and she'd be running like a dream again).
I only got this to play Elden Ring at 1440p with a decent FPS and to go back and play the meme of a game Cyber Punk since I payed for it and haven't touched it since release.
Overall tho if I wasn't able to snag a decent price like I did; I woulda stood with that 1650. I had a bond with that card; it was oddly fun seeing what games she could play and tuning the settings to fit her spec everytime I launched up a new title. That and there's a different level of satisfaction you get when you kick the enemy teams ass on mid/potato spec computers. It's like a double ego boost for yourself. 'I'm so good at the game I could beat you with 15-30fps' 😬😂
Edit: To go more off what you were saying tho; more people definitely need to consider AMD. I had a RX 580 I no longer needed that I gave to my sister for graphic design; and it still holds up nicely at 1080p medium/high with modern games in 2022.
If I didn't give that to her cause I scored another rig with that 1650 I mentioned for the low; I woulda still been using that.
AMD > Nvidia when it comes to buying new. But if you can buy used and get a deal on an Nvidia card; don't feel like that's a bad option. They're great cards for gaming; just a tad overpriced putting it mildly.
I will say tho; most AMD products are moreso better in raw specs which only translate to gains in performance in environments like rendering software and synthetic benchmarks.
It's kinda the reason why people still lean Nvidia/Intel if they can get their hands on em when they're tryna build a gaming rig... well that and historically 'better' driver support. But that's subjective and AMD seems to be doing a better job over the years supporting older GPU's so that point can be taken with a grain of salt.
All that being said; AMD is a great alternative for the price to performance they offer. Increasingly so because of the price gouging companies like Nvidia are guilty of.

Which card outperforms it?

Lol no thx

I fucking wish I could buy a running used car for $1600.

Lets agree to disagree then.

Nvidia is going to be holding the bag on this one if AMDs GPUs are even 75 to 80 percent of their performance.

The price inflation, size of the cards, and the power draw issues all contribute to making end users leery of investing into such an expensive item.

So if you can get something that's half the price and most of the performance? Why not. Especially when it'll fit in your case and isn't melting power cables.

No, Nvidia isn't like Apple. Nvidia genuinely sells better stuff, Apple sells pretty stuff to people who don't know, or don't care.

Merely a Suggestion Retailers... idk I'm having a hard time coming up with a word that accurately describes their price gouging tactics in one word that starts with the letter 'p'... a bit harder than initially I imagined 🤔
I'mma leave it up to reddit; yall figure it out! 🤷‍♂️✌

Ah okay thank you so much!! I have seen those both a bunch and am always afraid to ask! Much appreciated!

What $999 card outperforms the 4080 (which we dont even have third party benchmarks for yet)

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They typically offer the best deals you'll ever get for CPU and MB. And most items trade blows with everywhere else depending who's got it on sale this week. Though microcenter limits the good deals to in person typically only which does suck and id knock them down a tad for that but there not anywhere near as bad as you're saying.

Typically it's every 2 years for a generation

I mean that's all speculation. Time will tell. If so the 4080 won't sell well. Though it seems like Nvidia priced the 4080 to sell more 4090s honestly so idk if they care.