That would make it better but I’ve never seen a video of a fat guy doing this kind of stuff.

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I keep my phone in my back pocket, so yeah if I sit down it's under my butt. I'm also a woman, so my front/side pockets aren't big enough to hold a phone

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No worries, I could have been more clear by putting a comma after amount or saying "amount of time" so now I see where you had your confusion. That part is on me.

Turn your phone off?

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I think people trying to drive and use their phone at the same time are far more likely to drop the phone than passengers.

I’m sure people are, but I’m also sure a far greater amount of people having this issue are passengers and not drivers

Integration with their maps service is probably a good route to take. Currently, I imagine the scope is set to something like “whenever phone is traveling fast and gets jerked around a lot.”

At the cost of protection while off-roading (lol to that), they could refine the scope by seeing if you’re actually on a road first.

“How can people use their phones if It’s ILLEGAL, Helloooooo!”

“anymore”… so we agree it was on the road moments before leaving it?

Epic.

Okay, you meant "disabling for 5 minutes when those forces are detected in a geofenced area" - the way it was worded, it read like "disabling after 5 minutes of G-forces", which would be a whole lot harder to make work, lol. My mistake.

You would think after all the bloody apples they'd at least be free of maggots.

Add geo-fenching around amusement parks to void all those by default, then you just have to deal with the traveling type fairs. You could probably even get a database with their setup addresses and geofence those off as well. It would take a bit of backend work, but would handle 99% of the false positives without user intervention.

I’m sure the rollercoaster thing could probably be fixed by a geofence but for the “dropped while driving” thing I can’t think of any way to exclude that

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No, you put them in your bag in the locker, because you’re not allowed stuff in your pockets on rollercoasters.

I have to agree with u/rickg on this one. Why listen to what the consumers want? We should be remember to be grateful to Apple Inc (™️, all rights reserved) and change our lifestyles to suit the what the corporation dictates. If tons of users accidentally trigger the SOS feature, it must be their fault, not apple’s, OBVIOUSLY

To quote u/rickg, just “watch WTF you’re doing” ok?

You’re also not allowed phones (or any loose items) on rollercoasters.

Most rides are absolutely under 5 minutes so detecting high speed and forces inside a geofence and then disabling for a 5 minute period every time should cover... most if not all rides.

If Apple is worried about liability then they could pop a temp notification that the feature is currently disabled for x reason (just like you might see with a wet charging port on android).

This allows for automatic crash and fall detection feature disablement without user interactivity in false detection scenarios.

The 5 minute timer could start every time they get on a ride and they can still have fall detection walking the park. They could even tie in heart rate / apple watch false readings.

This is also an EXTREMELY broad and short solution by a Redditor with very little investment. I am sure any implementation would get far more complex. Maybe it's... 4 minutes? 3? a weighted answer depending on forces?

Either way, it can easily be refined.

No, it means people are ignoring those laws.

At this price point we’re pretty close!