Haven’t used much PVC myself so I can’t really comment, but in most ways it seems better than the ABS I do use. Everything other than installation that is, which is my career. I do like material that’s easy to work with but also stands up, if only ABS didn’t bow in the sun like PCV doesn’t the stuff would be damn near perfect.

Yeah I meant pvc as waste piping. Maybe not the best example of longevity.

Pex has been in use in Europe since the 70’s. The US used it for underfloor hearing starting in the 80’s.

I’ve removed 25 year old pex that was just as good as what I replaced it with. A inch and a half section of that same house on a hot water circ loop attached to a water softener had a nail shot through it when the piping was originally installed, it didn’t appear to have ever leaked and wasn’t at the time I repaired that.

It’s proven.

Side note, PVC is garbage for water. My state doesn’t even allow it for hot water.

Not arguing that pex is better than polyb but it’s a question whether pex will last the life of copper/pvc. I’ve always seen pex with a stated 50 year life but what happens afterwards? Are houses going to need a gut job to replace the pipes?

I agree, just figured I’d leave some wiggle room for parts of the country that may be different than mine.

That, or a gauche and bad-faith attempt to cash in on very real suffering by pretending it’ll solve those real problems.

If missing the point was an industry surely it would be manufactured housing.

Now first world housing can compete with 3rd world hunger for resources

Lmao I was just talking to someone about paper straws — that’s a good comparison to draw. Like, yeah, it’s technically better than plastic, but doesn’t solve the underlying issues like trash in the ocean OR the ecologically destructive nature of both the plastic AND paper industries. If that weren’t bad enough, it also is super unpleasant to use and actively makes people dislike environmentalist causes.

The housing one bugs me, similarly — the issue isn’t building materials, it’s that housing costs are massively over-inflated compared to wages and we’ve sold our nation’s soul to the renting/AirBnB markets. The housing crisis is a feature of the housing market, not a bug, and single-family zoning keeps saturated housing areas similarly sparse of actual home owners.

This is where the difference between performative progressiveness and actual progressiveness crops up. If talks of change threaten markets and businesses taking advantage of the disaster/crisis, we’ll just be thrown resin hovels and disintegrating paper straws.

My first house was 1008 sq ft. 3 bed, 1 bath and while not massive, was laid out well and comfortable. 1200 sq feet isn’t “fairly large” for an apartment that’s massive

It’s ugly. Can the future of housing be less ugly?

Yes, but your first message indicated you have issues with reading, which is why I want to know what specific statement you are misreading this time.

My overall point was that if you were to replace 50lbs of traditional speakers with these new flat ones, you'd only save 35lbs, which is miniscule compared to the overall vehicle weight.

If you assume 20lbs of speakers replaced, it's even less weight saved.

About which part? Lol you can read right?

Thank you so much!

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Futures homes looking like what my great grandparents lived

The only way to accomplish this on a national scale is through force. So; it won’t happen.

Why wouldn't it be. Hell I'd expect it to be far more expensive, at least initially

Check out mass timber structures.

And it only took 5,386,305 hours to print!

This is true until it isn’t. They all want to make this stuff cheaper- they’ve just all failed so far, but they’ll keep trying. The market for new mediocre technology that isn’t actually cheaper than existing tech is not large.

Except pex has already outlasted polyb by a long time, and just observationally is a much tougher material. Fittings also clearly better as well.

What’s wrong with stick built?

Maybe not if they become mass produced.

And in what climates? Germany has a housing crisis, but our winters can get pretty cold - would the recycle house break down at some point? And would the materials stand up to multi-storey constructions?