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MadisonPearGarden t1_iyimh3k wrote

There were people who told Henry Ford nobody wanted a horseless carriage, the horse was a better way to get around. There were people who told Jeff Bezos nobody wanted to buy books on the internet, going to the bookstore was the best way to shop for books. They were wrong. Ford & Bezos were right.

The difference here he’s not addressing something people already need to do or want to do: get around or obtain books. He’s trying to create a shitty new reality that nobody wants or needs. This time the naysayers are right. Zuck is wrong.

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ezra_sinclair t1_iyilh7w wrote

I think Zuckerberg is absolutely right that as virtual experiences become more lifelike, digital assets as a market will explode, but I don't think that time has come and I haven't seen anything yet to suggest that Meta is going to be the company with the skills and the taste to capitalize on that. Zuckerberg's not very likeable, but I think his general thinking about the trajectory of things is correct and so he at least deserves credit for that.

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vinnyj5 t1_iyi76xn wrote

All solid points. FB/Meta seems pretty fucked. Seems like Zuck had the right idea to pivot the biz after apples privacy rules cratered their ad business. But what he chose to pivot to is not happening.

If you think about it- it’s not surprising. Other than the initial product, FB grew because of acquisitions- not innovation. They bought IG and WhatsApp. They aren’t good at creating new products. This is no different.

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HarryHacker42 t1_iyi2pxt wrote

Please don't discourage The Zuckster from wasting his billions on any stupid concept. This stuff is great! It keeps thousands of people employed, distracts from stealing and selling people's information to future overlords, and might prevent another genocide unlike the Royingya one Facebook coordinated.

Waste Away, Markity Markness.

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AnBearna t1_iyi18m3 wrote

So there’s a few critical obstacles that I can see with the Metaverse concept.

1 Headsets for VR are uncomfortable for long periods and for some people, using them for even short periods can cause motion sickness. I don’t think companies are going to be lining up for devices that make their fancy corporate HQ’s smell of puke.

2 I don’t think they can over come this limitation really without downgrading VR to AR, but that would necessitate a complete reimagining of the Metaverse on Marks part and mean that the 38Bn he’s already spend becomes kind of… toilet paper.

3 The other issue is that to make VR useful beyond video games and AutoCAD, we need to completely redesign the user interface -in software and hardware- of common Office productivity applications like MS Office, Libre Office, etc and I have no idea how you even start that.

4 From learning of the origins of this Metaverse concept coming from sci-fi works like Johnny Mnemonic etc. I find myself thinking that this isn’t going to work because in large part, the publics concept of digital futurism has matured beyond those early concepts which seem cliche at this point. The more I look at it the more doomed it seems, and expensively so.

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detectiveDollar t1_iyfc5o4 wrote

Part of the problem is that most of what's smaller than 2000+ square feet that's relatively new construction in a decent area with nearby jobs are townhouses with gated communities (at least in my area). Townhouses are great, but they have a steep HOA fee which makes the seemingly affordable mortgage a lot less affordable.

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Allidoischill420 t1_iybgeds wrote

Think forward. Speakers complicate aerodynamics, sound proofing, and add weight where you do not want weight. Cars are just drones that don’t know how to fly yet. We’ll all want to be wrapped in the most aerodynamic space and weight conscious vehicles possible, because it’s going to be a balance between comfort, range, and economics.

Weight is the only valid argument here, and even then you're talking a miniscule fraction of the total vehicle's weight. As long as crumple zones are mandated, there will always be room for speakers (think between the outer and inner panels of doors. Soundproofing is more for road/vehicle noise and will tend to be on the outer panel of any body section.

I couldn’t disagree more. Weight and space required for things like speakers complicate an engineer’s job, requiring compromises. Crumple zones require empty space to crumple. They don’t work properly if they smash a speaker into your kneecap. There are huge advantages to minimizing the space required by the most space wasteful components of vehicles, and speakers are obvious low hanging fruit

A speaker is an insignificant intrusion into a crumple zone and no engineer cares about a speaker going into your knee. Speakers themselves are already pretty thin to the point where if it's going to happen, you've got larger issues based on the fact that a 6.5" speaker is around 2.5" deep, held together by paper, and weighs around 2lb.

As for weight, these will save at most 35lbs (assuming a heavy set of speakers at 50lbs total and the fact that these are only 70% lighter) on a 2000-6000lb vehicle.

If anything, these would get put into flat panel TVs, but a car? There's too much dead space behind nearly every panel to justify it.

Finally, keep in mind, we've had flat panel speakers for decades, and this isn't the first article to proclaim their use in cars.

Like I needed to waste my time doing this.

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