I read the abstracts you linked.

My understanding is (and I could be totally wrong so anyone else feel free to correct me) is that radiation treatment targeted at the throat often times kills the salivary glands

You read the actual papers?

Versius is getting peddled pretty hard but it is doing the same surgery just with a different ‘robot’. Its probably the closest competitor to Intuitives machines but they also probably have an unassailable market share till peoples machines come to the end of their working life.

If. If this story is true then 1 it’s not slipping and 2 there is a reason.

I think it’s being moved back, not delayed, because FB showed their hand and it was crap. Apple relieved, has more time to bake their software.

I read them but didn’t find anything about it.

Are you telling me there is and never will be automation in clinical workspaces because you went to medical school? Or are you saying the robots you worked with medical school are not autonomous? Did you work with every robot in the hospital or just one or two boxes?

If a robot is doing a task under control of a human that is the definition of semi-autonomous.

What did I make up?

How so? I work in automation in Clinical settings. Your comment is really alarming to see from a random Reddit user,

It’s going to take a while, but it is happening and the increase in semi-autonomation across all areas of a hospital will only increase in pace.

One small correction to the above comment, the interpretation of NGS data is already being done by algorithm. A pathologist is only needed to view the report.

Which is what I do for my job lol

/shrugs/ Read the papers yourself.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34699271/

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31416685/

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0360301621028121

To be fair, so will people on the Internet.

/shrugs/ Surgeons generally will say whatever the hell they want.

The only thing that actually matters is the pathology report.

And the pathology reports for patients treated with robotic trans-oral resections of throat tumors leave residual tumors a large proportion of the time.

Hope they named it the Throat GOAT

Well thought out argument, well done

With all due respect, that is the opinion of actual surgeons. I tend to trust them in matters regarding surgery.

That is incorrect.

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The comment I replied to SPECIFICALLY talked about AI replacing an entire pathology department. I also mentioned in my comment about AI increasing efficiency.

If you wanna convince yourself that it’s easier to train AI to the level of a specialist physician than it is to drive a bus then go ahead. My point was that these problems are very complex even for AI. What exactly do you think pathologists and radiologists do exactly? I think YOU are grossly underestimating what it would require for AI to be as good as a trained specialist

Identifying a particular lesion on an image is just the bare minimum and even that is incredibly difficult even for AI. They still need huge amounts of understanding to decide whether we should treat now or wait. I can’t even begin to type out how essential these specialist are. AI will need real physicians for the foreseeable future because you need someone to make clinical judgement, something no AI is capable of doing. Imaging going to an AI to make a judgement about whether to treat your mothers cancer or not. Would you take that risk?

Metas investment into VR is pretty much worthless if people don’t believe in the product or company. I don’t really see a redemption arc in the works for them, but who knows. I don’t agree with you but I’m upvoting for adding to the conversation

Yup, there’s no rush really. People are so opposed to VR right now thanks to meta, and no one wants to spend thousands on a product that ends up glitchy or useless. Apples not perfect, but I look forward to trying out whatever they release (at the store unless I stumble into $3000 somehow)

Apple is scalping our data too. They just know how to make us feel good about it

robots assisted surgery is considerably more expensive than open or laparoscopic in most cases, the robots also require additional training and are operated by surgeons, they are not autonomous