Well, your heart was in the right spot but had such an old article. It's irrelevant. Not a good proof source for your point.

Damn, with no other double decker aircraft, the next Air Force One will have to be a typical 777.

Doesn’t project the same level of power.

There are many options and some are more expensive than others. The key benefit is largely invisible, just like this standard. Specifically, it allows more competition leading to lower prices for everyone. In addition, adapters become redundant which is another substantial cost for anyone travelling. Assuming half the cost is saved and q rolling adoption, it will pay for itself within half the lifespan of outlets and appliances. This obviously won't be 1 or 2 years but neither is the case for the USB-c standard.

It's IEEE who decides what gets used I think.

Wired data transfers are becoming increasingly niche.

There's some speculation that Apple might move to Thunderbolt on future high end iPhones. There is a possibility that 20 gigabit - 40 gigabit connectivity could be Apple exclusive for a while.

Neither Qi nor MagSafe is about data transfers.

WiFi already handles data transfers and is constantly getting faster. My WiFi 6 mesh outperforms my CAT5 wiring in my house.

It's left me in a conundrum of running CAT7-8 in my walls, or just expecting WiFi 7-8 to be fast enough.

60 Ghz WiFi already exists for high speed data transfers over short distances in a true wireless manner. It wouldn't be hard to add this to a phone.

The main need for such high bandwidth is usually for large devices like monitors which aren't typically connected to phones.

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It’s not socialism, technically. Consumers/governments don’t own USB and can’t contribute to it either, it’s just corporations.

You’re right, there are more important things than this (see right to repair) but I believe universal ports are a good pro-consumer step forward, whether it’s USB or if we start from scratch and call it something else :)

I feel if we’re going to start abandoning some of the tenants of capitalism in favor of a socialistic approach it would behoove us to do it in a more thorough manner than just cell phone port charging regulation :/

And in reality Qi will get 40Gbps bandwidth and upto 100W power delivery eventually while MagSafe 2.0 will be stuck on 18W and USB 2.0 (480Mbps) speeds. And apple will still keep claiming MagSafe 2.0 is better

That’s where our viewpoints differ then: I’d rather have all the companies working together than creating their own proprietary stuff.

The “bad situation” in my opinion is when there are fractured proprietary solutions, it’s anti-consumer by design.

Unless you mean Apple (or any single company) creating an open standard all by themselves and sharing it for free, but then they have no reason to do it (no profit). More likely, they would share the burden of cost with other companies, which is essentially what USB is.

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Bet they'll make the area AROUND the port unique... So like only one style will plug in far enough to work properly....

It'd be a lot more expensive to change the system than the amount of money we will ever have to pay for it for being suboptimal.

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A great job? A government should be micromanaging the ports on our electronics to mandate one orginazations standard that requires royalties? I see an obvious example of too much government. What is the great job?

IDK how you avoid that. I need to go and realize my phone is at 30% or less so I toss a battery pack in my pocket and plug it into the phone. I'm out the door with no issues.

Starting to see a lot more USB integrated outputs in outlets now, so for lower voltage appliances that’s probably the easiest solution

I’m not as confident it would just be USB 5.

I could see Apple having made a better port in same way they made better SoCs. It’s not out of the realm of possibility they’ve been iterating on lightning Ike they were SoCs and just not releasing them (it’s incredibly unlikely, but not out of the realm of possibility).

Imagine it’s literally what would take until USB 6 or 7 in terms of features for the sake of argument.

In theory if apple must use the standard they’d be prevented from using this obviously better cable.

That’s a bad situation.

Similarly saying to all companies you must make all your innovations out in the open so that way governments don’t accidentally make your better product illegal to implement.

We’re in total agreement about the clusterfuck of naming schemes and feature support.

That said, there is no better port. USB 4 has the best display output, power delivery and data transfer rate capabilities.

This hypothetical “new best port” would literally just be USB 5, which hopefully is less confusing than USB 4 and will probably still use the Type-C cable.

Mostly - my point of contention with your post was the use of “best” (which I feel is a really tricky word to actually use correctly without being very specific about for which purposes).

I also really have a hard time with people praising usb c/usb 4/thunderbolt as they made an absolute cluster fuck with them all being the same port and I don’t particularly find it to be anybody at the USB consortiums “best” work. And in terms of consumer confusion I’d call it some of their worst.

Okay so we’re on the same page really. What I’m trying to say is that this design phase is already happening with Type-C and USB 4. This is what the engineers agree on.

Whichever port they (the engineers familiar with the project) decide is the best port for the application.

If I feel they were able to competently design the rest of the product I see no reason to assume they cannot competently choose an appropriate port for the product.

Okay, which port would you like them to use instead?

Do you think companies want to use the port they’ve already invested years of R&D into, or be told to scratch it all and make a new one just for shits and giggles?

Eu will regret this mark my words, they are expecting everyone to go to USB but now we’re going to have portless

I know you didn’t say that - do you know what an analogy is?

A port designed by committed isn’t going to be the best port for all things - it’s just a standard.

You definitely said it was the best - and it’s most definitely not unless you’re explicitly defining exactly what it’s best for (as there’s plenty of ports/cables that are better for different purposes, or else every single cable you’d use in your life would be the same - ever use a power cord for a desktop PC? Or an Ethernet cable?)