I think the problem there is the size, it works on deck with the screen, but without it, getting that much in a reasonable space is rough.

It would also fix the problems with people not realizing it's an enthusiast control expecting it to work out of the box with no config work. Which would help a lot. But I still want that touch pad tooooo

Yep, TouchPad is great for mouse gaming on a thumb. Would seem weird if you were thinking of using a finger on it on a laptop but thumb with the pad grip on it on the sc is nice

They do but if there aren't games to set it up I don't think it's going to do so hot like on ps5.

I actually prefer a ps5 controller. They’re lighter and less cumbersome. I do wish companies would put paddles on the back, though. That part is genius.

I was craving a tower defense game some time ago and discovered the series. I adored 1, savored every minute and just picked up 3 on sale. It's a really novel concept and the community maps are wild.

Together we stand! Mortars at the ready!

Totally, I played 90% of I Have No Mouth and I Must Scream with a mouse, and then replayed with the steam controller with a good map, and enjoyed it much more.

Also Grim Fandango, Ultima Underground, Magic Carpet 2, the entire MYST series, Creeper World 1, Worms. I really loved it for Half Life 1 and System Shock, flicking the right pad is very useful and intuitive in those games.

Notable controls to mention as well, the swirl to scroll for long text based games is HUGE.

Did you say a controller is better for "point and click"? Interesting take.

No? I talk to people plenty. I am a distracted driver. I don’t know why you decided to try strawmanning this, but yeah. Talking while driving is a distraction. Doing anything while driving is a distraction. You can still talk while you drive, but to try convincing people that talking while driving is not a distraction paints you as a fool.

Honestly, anything that says "We turned this into a working controller" is old news. You can buy a basic hardwired controller board off of aliexpress for practically nothing, and anyone remotely handy should be able to figure out how to wire it up. And if you want to do something more complicated like analog control and bluetooth, there's generic arduino libraries that you can combine with any number of compatible boards if you've got a bit more know-how.

The amount of people refusing to listen to logic is crazy. This doesn’t even need a scientific explanation, it just makes complete sense that it’s more difficult to do two tasks at the same time than one. How sad.

You spelled immersive wrong.

I'd rather they base it on the PS5 controller with adaptive haptics triggers.

Completely off-topic, but you're the first person I've seen mention Creeper World on Reddit. Glad to see there's at least one other person besides me who holds back the endless tides of goo.

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Hopefully it has two joysticks and two track pads just like the steam deck. Personally I find the trackpads exactly like you’d expect - like trying to use a trackpad over a mouse, it’s not great. Works in a pinch, though

The steam deck fixes where the steam controller failed. If they base the steam controller 2 on the steam deck it would sell infinitely better.

How ‘bout answering the question as to why Civ VI crashes half the time, and the other half won’t even load?

I’ve verified files, reinstalled and tried the work around for the 2k launcher.

I really hope they have double analog sticks on the new steam controller. The touchpads are nice, but they aren't sticks and mini games are designed with the feel of an analog stick in mind.

I just never could get used to be touchpads and certain games (dark souls for example) would just never feel right.

It is hands down the best controller aside from that fact. The customization, the feel of it overall, everything. I can't say enough good things about it. But it ended up getting used way less than I wanted.

PS5 controllers have adaptive haptics so it actually feels like pressing a trigger with resistance.

It was really a solution in search of a problem. Why set up some goofy system (that also ties up your rig) to play Civ 6 in the living room?

The controller was okay, but that's the only situation where it makes sense over keyboard+mouse or a 360 controller. They really should have just adopted the 360 controller and picked a single manufacturer for the official "Steam Machine". Letting various manufacturers duke it out shot them in the foot as nobody really embraced it.

I play Lego games with my kids all the time. That's the demographic they should have shot for.

What kind of haptics are you referring to? The old one already had this.

Unless they include something really cool like *adaptive haptic triggers it's a no for me.

So the Steam Controller 2 part was really just one of several questions/answers regarding the Steam Deck generally. I think there may be renewed interest in a Steam Controller for those with a Deck who want to play docked and end up using some other controller. I'm getting on fine using a PS4 dualshock controller, but the best controller for the Steam Deck is the Steam Deck itself. Between the track pads, back/paddle buttons, and ridiculous level of customization and community control profiles, it's been a fantastic experience. If a Steam Controller 2 was released, I'd be interested, but the article does offer a lot of other Steam Deck info for those interested.

As a retro/80s/90s mostly gamer, I would love another controller. I love the options to play point and clicks, RTS, and other genres very effectively, better than keyboard and mouse most of the time.

Just fired up Creeper World 3 and made an awesome map that has all of the units mapped to the touch pad and joy stick and it's really smooth.

My favorite controller for sure, sorry GameCube. But it's strengths are really about non fps games.